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Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2233940)
There are several ways to get into HIMS.
Voluntary referral, ie seeking help. By far the best, no legal ramifications. Outside referral, ie the company gets word that you may have an issue and requests that you talk to HIMS. This is where other crew come into play, or possibly family members. This is an intervention. Being caught first. Not good, and no guarantees. You will be fired, but may get your job and certs back eventually.
Originally Posted by Silver02ex
(Post 2233943)
He never made it to work. He was arrested during the overnight. He has a few incident involving getting drunk on an over night. There was a time he knocked over a Christmas tree in a hotel lobby on an overnight IIRC. This was before the MDT incident. Getting into trouble a few times on an overnight seems to be the reason why he went through HIMS.
And with the additional info you provided, even more interesting that he was hired at DAL. Yep, I know, SSP is a guaranteed interview, but NOT a guaranteed job. But Jesus. |
Originally Posted by John Carr
(Post 2234104)
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Thanks, it was just general curiosity if a SINGLE event warranted it. OR, there was a pattern. To be eligible you must have an addiction, which is assumed to override your voluntary self-control. You don't have to get caught more than once (or at all) but you have to have a pattern of drinking (or abuse of other substances). This does not have to be documented, you just have to say you drink X/day, Y days/week. If you get arrested and claim that it was a one time-only bad judgement situation, and that you don't have a problem and rarely drink then: You do NOT have a substance problem, and are NOT eligible for HIMS, and WILL be fired and have your tickets shredded with NO recourse. You guys see what I'm saying here? |
Originally Posted by rickair7777
(Post 2234106)
If you get arrested and claim that it was a one time-only bad judgement situation, and that you don't have a problem and rarely drink then: You do NOT have a substance problem, and are NOT eligible for HIMS, and WILL be fired and have your tickets shredded with NO recourse.
You guys see what I'm saying here? What I was curious about was, did he "pull the card" to prevent what I quoted above? |
Originally Posted by Mercyful Fate
(Post 2233554)
5 seconds, oh come now. This has been eating you up for a while, and that is obvious. I am guessing this is what you look like after spending some time in here?
http://i.amz.mshcdn.com/FCP-M5EriZwB...-Nicholson.gif Well, at least that video made me chuckle. I'm glad you are expanding your use of them rather than the odd smirk one. But yeah, I admit, I gave an eye roll and then proceeded to keep reading the forum. |
Originally Posted by mike734
(Post 2232524)
I don't think keeping his job is on the table now. As for career? He's probably done, certainly on the career track he was on.
The FO - Joe Balzer - Wrote a book - Flying Drunk The CA - Lyle Prouse's book is - Final Approach Northwest Airline Flt 650 Both were terrific reads. |
For all the people with respectable records and thousands of hours at a regional and can't get a phone call from a major, Joe balzer flew an airplane drunk af and got hired.
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Originally Posted by CAirBear
(Post 2235933)
Both pilots from the Northwest flight back in the 90s are flying again. Although the CA is over 65 now. The FO is at AA (both figuratively and at the airline).
The FO - Joe Balzer - Wrote a book - Flying Drunk The CA - Lyle Prouse's book is - Final Approach Northwest Airline Flt 650 Both were terrific reads. Carry on :cool: |
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Blood test yet to come back?
From a week ago? |
Originally Posted by Majerus
(Post 2231972)
You sound stupid, SkyWest will put him into HIMs without an unions to do it. Because it the right thing to do.
Regardless of who he is, I've never seen him contribute anything intelligent or constructive. Best to just ignore him for the worthless persona that he is. |
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