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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2232260)

Not a single person here suggested they turn him in to the police. The "captain shows up drunk" statement is completely irrelevant. He did that to himself. And you're right, when I see a guy in handcuffs on the side of the road at a DUI checkpoint, I'm GLAD he got caught before he killed someone. There are consequences for your actions. If you try to drive a car or fly an airplane under the influence, you get to go to jail. His coworkers didn't do him a favor by letting him get on the hotel bus but it's not their responsibility to ensure he isn't drunk. He made a conscious decision to put on his uniform drunk and hope no one caught him when he could have EASILY called in sick.

I agree, he made the decision to do that and clearly I would never advocate drinking and flying. I guess what I'm saying is there needs to be a better effort company wise to stop these people before ever showing up to the airport. And more training to get someone to call out. The person might have a serious problem and his Fellow pilot might be there person who finally gets him the help he needs before he shows up like the guys in 1990 with northwest airlines on Fargo. If someone wants to fly drunk; then yeah. They deserve to go to jail. What I guess I was trying to say is. More help and better situational awareness at the hotel. Stop it before it happens.

[QUOTE=prex8390;2232257]A lot of keyboard warriors on here. I wonder what they all said in their interviews when they got the "captain shows up drunk/what do" question.

I told the interview panel everything they wanted to hear in order to get the job.
Worked like a charm.

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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2232314)

Alcohol is metabolized at approximately .015 per hour. That means when he stopped drinking, if he JUST cleared .04, his BAC was .17. I would think that even a .05 or .06, he would still feel woozy.

And I believe they said an airport official called the police, so probably TSA.

Ohhh, the humanity!! Not another Tub Stacking Administration warrior.
Had one of these mouth breathers get in every crew members' face while going through security in hopes of becoming a hero.
Heroic ambition quickly turned into utter embarrassment when I offered him some mints.
Crawl back into your hole.
Not saying that the pilot shouldn't have been caught, just not by a tub stacker who isn't allowed to wear a football helmet with earmuffs while at "work" because it isn't part of their uniform.

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2232160)

8 for SKW, 12 for most other airlines.

What airlines have 12 hours?

XJT is 8.

the public is outraged to find out that such a prestigious company like Delta airlines would ever employ such an irresponsible individual as a pilot. Oh wait

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Originally Posted by rickair7777 (Post 2232160)

8 for SKW, 12 for most other airlines.

I've worked at 3 ALPA carriers and 2 non-ALPA. The non-ALPA carriers were 12 hours and the ALPA carriers were 8.

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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 2232378)

I've worked at 3 ALPA carriers and 2 non-ALPA. The non-ALPA carriers were 12 hours and the ALPA carriers were 8.

Worked at a Teamster airline and at an ALPA carrier now. Both were 12.

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Originally Posted by 2StgTurbine (Post 2232378)

I've worked at 3 ALPA carriers and 2 non-ALPA. The non-ALPA carriers were 12 hours and the ALPA carriers were 8.

A union has just as much to do with drinking restrctions as it does with the format of dispatch releases or the color of your uniform...in other words, it's complete irrelevant.

You've worked at 5 companies. What section of the contract is alcohol consumption addressed?

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Originally Posted by No Lies (Post 2232356)

What airlines have 12 hours?

Compass -- an ALPA carrier -- has a 12-hour rule.

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Originally Posted by CBreezy (Post 2232388)

This is correct.

What a union does have a great deal to do with is what happens if you do something wrong, or are accused of doing something wrong. That is why most people do not mind paying union dues. It is simply insurance.

The union is also responsible for things like KCM, HIMS, and all of the legislation that the non-union members still get the benefit of but did not have to pay for.