ORD170

He’s either management or on the NC trying to sell this poop sandwich. He has a large amount of data to be just a line pilot.

BeastieBoy

If he can get it passed maybe he can be a VP someday too!

ex9driver

Originally Posted by MileHi
Food for thought:
As of 1/1/2020, RAH CA rates will be equal or higher than those of Endeavor. That's less than 2 years, not 3. At that time, republic's nc will be back at the negotiating table. Endeavor's? Who knows?
Their CBA is till 2024. Also, how bout this....
Would you rather have Endeavor rates now but be forced to accept:
Junior Manning
NYC Co-basing
A reduction to 4 hours min day
A 30% increase in insurance premiums
Zero dollars HSA company contribution
An average line award of 76 hours (vs 87 at RAH) while averaging the same days off (14)

Truly objective apples to apples comparisons don't just include pay rates.



Republic pilots. Things talked about in this post are concessionary. There is absolutely no reason to accept any concession in the current airline environment from our current contract so its irrelevant. As the largest regional its time to act like it. There is no flow and no retention bonus in this TA. Tell them to come back when you have one or the other!

TalkTurkey

It’s negotiations 101. The first sea is never the final deal. The only reason why we at endeavor voted yes was because for most of us, it’s a good pay raise. Please don’t accept the first go.

MileHi

Propsed HSA contributions are $850/$1700 respectively. Endeavor pays $411/month for the family plan vs $308 at republic while having a smaller HSA contribution. Also, 74% 900s is not 100%. Your OVERALL average schedule is 76 hours with 14 days off. Republic's is 87 with the same number of days off. I guess a give on co-basing in exchange for commuter flights could be a good tradeoff if you're a commuter. But what if you live in base? Oh by the way, regardless of the frequency used, republic still prohibits junior manning. And no pilot sits airport standby either. QOL matters.

always surfing

NO!! Endeavor or better


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272922

2014 called and wants its self reighteous internet butt hurt back.

Casualinterest

Yea I'm not so sure this is accurate. Per our Union, the average credit is 83 hours. Per the company its 88. So not sure where you're getting 76 unless you're talking January 2018. Not to mention how on Earth would an average credit of 76 occur with a min of 75? Furthermore, all deadheads are awarded at 75% but paid at 100%. So you'll always credit more than award if you have one DH per month. You'd have to have 90% of the pilot group get awarded 75 hour lines to offset the other 10% bidding Max line range, and even then you'd probably still crack 76 credit average company wide. Smells fishy.

Bidding Max days off and min credit with taking 6 weeks off for FMLA I still averaged 80 hours per month credit last year.

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Crownie

Their cr2 rates pay more than the proposed 175 rates, but 74% is the higher paying 900 rates which are well above our proposed rates.
Also you know as well as I do that republic can easy start airport standby with a little effort. It's allowed per the contract and the company does seen to be redoing the crew rooms. Don't make it sound like they can't implement it because they can.

I understand pay rates aren't everything and that's why this thing is being viewed negatively. . This t/a is lacking in many other areas. 401k, commuting, commuter hotels, pay rates that are a let down with no improvement to soft pay to make up for it, no improvement for reserves, being told a whole new proposal was handed to the company only to find out we settled for an extension of our current contract with a couple loa's, ect.

Geardownflaps30

This union provided quote says all you need to know...

"Industry average does NOT include Endeavor or Republic rates".