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Old 08-24-2018 | 11:27 AM
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Originally Posted by mfflyer
I was in the 8/21 class for anyone who has specific questions feel free to ask. The original plan was Indoc, Ethos, Systems Review, Panel Trainer, and then sent home to wait a few weeks for sims. Through research/review of their last few classes they decided the gaps in training were not good, and it was better for us training wise to keep the footprint condensed. When they broke the news in my class, all my classmates myself included were pleased. Nothing changes as far as pay/bonus pay out/benefits etc.

FWIW, I was a Piedmont new-hire who sat for months after indoc in complete blackhole darkness. After being told one thing by piedmont recruiters, another thing by indoc instructors, and something completely different by MF, as well as being kept in the complete blackhole darkness, the move to republic was probably the best decision I could have made at this current time. The Indoc experience at Piedmont in my opinion was horrible...Not to sound like the RJet cheerleader but my experience so far with RJet has been wonderful.

Our class was split into two groups, one returning mid September, the other returning beginning of October, and we will all be done with sims by the end of november/beginning of december with this new training timeline.

When they decided to break the news, the entire leadership team was there including Bedford himself. Loved the transparency.
I also left Piedmont to come to Republic, and have the same appreciation for the communication that you mentioned. Somehow, Republic manages to publish a training schedule for new hires covering the next two months; I don’t understand how Piedmont can’t do the same, at least on a “rough draft” basis. But hey... can’t possibly be part of the reason people are leaving before they get sucked in by the mindset of “only ____ until I flow”.
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Old 08-24-2018 | 11:32 AM
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Originally Posted by BosoxH60
I also left Piedmont to come to Republic, and have the same appreciation for the communication that you mentioned. Somehow, Republic manages to publish a training schedule for new hires covering the next two months; I don’t understand how Piedmont can’t do the same, at least on a “rough draft” basis. But hey... can’t possibly be part of the reason people are leaving before they get sucked in by the mindset of “only ____ until I flow”.
Well said!
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Old 08-24-2018 | 11:39 AM
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Originally Posted by UnbeatenPath
Big question is...
I have a Sep. 10 ATP-CTP course and a Sep. 18 indoc date. I'm getting ready to put in my 2 weeks for my 135 job. Should I hold off if it will be delayed?
Republic is being incredibly honorable in allowing people to come to Indoc, get their training materials (iPad, etc), uniforms, luggage (Luggage Works!), seniority date, benefits, free mac and cheese (most important, obviously), and full pay schedule started even as they go home for 4-6 weeks (depending on the group). In fact, for the 12 or so people in the class that needed extra ME time, they are paying for their flight time (directly to the flight school - no need to reimburse). While I am not one of those, they made it clear that it is NOT coming out of their bonus... I can't imagine another regional being so giving.

Keep in mind - once you are hired by Republic, you cannot do any flying for compensation or hire - YX owns your commercial flying from there on out. It's a Part 117 tracking thing and it'd be too complicated to keep track of outside commercial flying otherwise. Feel free to fly for fun/charity/etc but you won't be doing any flying for your Part 135 operator while on break. You will be getting paid, however, to study on your own terms at home before you return for the main part of indoc, etc.

The delay is truly a blessing in disguise - we have our seniority numbers, paid time off to study, and a normal training footprint with the upfront delay so we stay fresh during training. I hadn't spoken to a single person in class that spoke negatively of their time thus far or the result of the delay. As others have mentioned, this company has been impressively transparent and their level of communication is better than I've seen at most companies - aviation industry or not.

While I'm not one for kool-aid, as of now, I'm happy to order a round of what YX has been serving us. Couldn't be more thrilled with my decision. FWIW.
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Old 08-24-2018 | 11:46 AM
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You know about the ME time for the next class to?

What about flight instruction while on the delay? I have a couple students I could finish up.
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Old 08-24-2018 | 11:56 AM
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You know about the ME time for the next class to?

What about flight instruction while on the delay? I have a couple students I could finish up.
The ME flight time could be unique to our class since it was such an abrupt thing. Speak to your recruiter. I wish I could give you more info but I'm just sharing our experience. YMMV.

You cannot flight instruct once you get hired. Maybe if you do it for free? If you look at your CFI cert, it says it must be accompanied by your commercial cert... so if you're exercising the privies of your commercial cert.... that's a grey area. Up to you... Somebody smarter than I could prob chime in and help. Personally, I wouldn't risk my future with YX for a few extra bucks.
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Old 08-24-2018 | 02:49 PM
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You'll make a lot more money flying the line than CFI'ing. If that's something you are passionate about though, you could to it probono (not that I recomend that). At least get some beer out of the deal. We all know a couple guys on the line who do a bit on the side under the table, but once again that's playing with fire. Also good luck explaining that to the company once something happens.

You made it to the big leagues! Stop grinding it out in the practice area/pattern and enjoy the ups and downs of the line!
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Old 08-24-2018 | 03:07 PM
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Originally Posted by intherightseat
The ME flight time could be unique to our class since it was such an abrupt thing. Speak to your recruiter. I wish I could give you more info but I'm just sharing our experience. YMMV.

You cannot flight instruct once you get hired. Maybe if you do it for free? If you look at your CFI cert, it says it must be accompanied by your commercial cert... so if you're exercising the privies of your commercial cert.... that's a grey area. Up to you... Somebody smarter than I could prob chime in and help. Personally, I wouldn't risk my future with YX for a few extra bucks.

Yes and No. Yes, if you are on reserve or an active line holding pilot, do not flight instruct for money. However, this training delay, break is basically a vacation. There are no restrictions against part 117 right now that you have to worry about since you are not even typed yet. There won't be any harm in finishing up some students and making some extra money. Just be sure to study as necessary.
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Old 08-24-2018 | 03:39 PM
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Originally Posted by Chancellor
Yes and No. Yes, if you are on reserve or an active line holding pilot, do not flight instruct for money. However, this training delay, break is basically a vacation. There are no restrictions against part 117 right now that you have to worry about since you are not even typed yet. There won't be any harm in finishing up some students and making some extra money. Just be sure to study as necessary.
They told us in no uncertain terms not to do any commercial flying, instructing included, during the delay in training. People asked, the answer was no.

Spend the time studying, you are still getting paid and there is a lot of material to cover.
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Old 08-24-2018 | 05:47 PM
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Can someone elaborate a little bit more about how the pay would be structured for this delay. Will there still be the 30 day stipend and first part of bonus, then the 75 hour pay? Or have they worked it a different way? Thanks !
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Old 08-24-2018 | 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Squawk1200
Can someone elaborate a little bit more about how the pay would be structured for this delay. Will there still be the 30 day stipend and first part of bonus, then the 75 hour pay? Or have they worked it a different way? Thanks !
Nothing changes, as already stated about 3 times.
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