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#21
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Won't have to - the gate agent is going to issue the 1W to me regardless since I'll be a D2 or D1. So unless you hang out in the gate area the entire time to orchestrate everything, you'll have to refuse me the j/s once I'm at the flight deck, then go up to the gate area to have the agent reissue the 1W to the OAL guy.
#22
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Oh I get it. We’ve been getting this shaft for a few years now. They’ll figure it out once the JB and WN pilots occupy our JS. Hope this doesn’t last long.
#23
And curious, what IT change was made that'll prevent us from being issued a 1W off a D2 or D1?
#24
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Joined APC: Apr 2011
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Won't have to - the gate agent is going to issue the 1W to me regardless since I'll be a D2 or D1. So unless you hang out in the gate area the entire time to orchestrate everything, you'll have to refuse me the j/s once I'm at the flight deck, then go up to the gate area to have the agent reissue the 1W to the OAL guy.
It's not AAGs JS either. Go ahead and walk on my flight deck with that attitude and see how far you get.
Yes YX CAs will be doing the walk. Most of us that are commuters already do anyhow.
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#25
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So you're saying no AAG pilot (AA or our WO guys) will be able to sit in your jumpseat until an IT change is made that will allow us to be listed as a D6? I'm not a commuter, but that's good to know.
And curious, what IT change was made that'll prevent us from being issued a 1W off a D2 or D1?
And curious, what IT change was made that'll prevent us from being issued a 1W off a D2 or D1?
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#26
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#27
Not trying to be an a-hole here. I know my company's gate agents pretty well - they're gonna do exactly what the computer tells them to do, which (unless you guys had the system changed) will be to issue the 1W to me before the D6 because my D2 listing will have an FDJ on it. If I don't run into the OAL guy how am I supposed to know that I was improperly issued the 1W? It's gotta either happen at the gate by you or you'll have to make the fix once I'm at your flight deck.
#28
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Not trying to be an a-hole here. I know my company's gate agents pretty well - they're gonna do exactly what the computer tells them to do, which (unless you guys had the system changed) will be to issue the 1W to me before the D6 because my D2 listing will have an FDJ on it. If I don't run into the OAL guy how am I supposed to know that I was improperly issued the 1W? It's gotta either happen at the gate by you or you'll have to make the fix once I'm at your flight deck.
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#29
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Not trying to be an a-hole here. I know my company's gate agents pretty well - they're gonna do exactly what the computer tells them to do, which (unless you guys had the system changed) will be to issue the 1W to me before the D6 because my D2 listing will have an FDJ on it. If I don't run into the OAL guy how am I supposed to know that I was improperly issued the 1W? It's gotta either happen at the gate by you or you'll have to make the fix once I'm at your flight deck.
As the guy you’ll meet at the bottom of the jetbridge, you’re most likely correct. I’ll do the walk but if don’t see anyone I can’t do anything proactively.
What I need from you is to understand that if I see someone else listed I’m likely going to investigate when you come down first. Personal preferences/opinions/whatever aside, it’s now in my FOM that everyone is time of check-in. I’m not in the position to violate the FOM. Got kids and dog and bills to pay and whatnot. I’m not looking to “deny” anyone the jumpseat and I’m not looking to ruin anyone’s day. It’s crap commuting right now. I’m a commuter. I know.
You are most certainly welcome up front and I’ll treat you with the same kindness and mutual respect I always have. The only thing that has changed is you are now at the same priority level we are when we ride up front on AAG metal, right down to having to have the gate agent modify your listing to a D6 (you) or check you in (what we have to do). It’s not fun or convenient, but that’s what I’ve done since I’ve been hired. Welcome to the suck.
If you’re non-revving it’s a complete non issue. Nothing has changed there, contrary to the information that is floating around. Go on vacation. Cash in that D1 listing. Get sloshed in first. Whatever. Send it.
This is most certainly not what any of us at Republic wanted and something that I guarantee 90% of AAG pilots didn’t even know existed, because the union folks there waited until now to decide they weren’t a fan. From the AAG folks I’ve conversed with since this came to a head for all of you (we’ve been trying for this for the better part of 10 years) most were unaware or misinformed. It’s a topic best discussed in person with a beer in my experience.
I’ve got no bad blood with the AAG folks and they are welcome up front at the same priority they offer me.
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#30
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Joined APC: Feb 2019
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wow.... how childish... hAAte agent. get a life dude. Most of em are great sports.
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