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Old 10-16-2022, 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
I’ve been advising people for awhile to go to any regional where you could fly your butt off. Anyone who has actually accumulated 950 hours of 121 time is currently a prized commodity, a “near-DEC” (and some places as low as 750). And those people will soon be able to name their own base, pick up a $100K bonus, and continue to fly their butts off at the new CA rates until hired at the next level.

Because a deficiency of regional CAs was the predictable result of the early retirements (and age- forced retirements) of so many senior pilots from the Big Four once flying restarted so abruptly. Regional CAs have become the limiting factor in the whole supply chain and that will likely last until the accelerated hiring at the majors is stopped, either by recession or by the majors themselves developing a surplus of FOs. It is a uniquely regional problem, caused by the 1000 hour upgrade requirement and the seniority system and one management has NEVER had to deal with before.
I wonder if any early retirements are coming back for a farewell tour? Take a bonus, work another year or two, then bow out.
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Old 10-17-2022, 12:02 PM
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Any word of other classes other than 11/1 being cancelled?
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Old 10-17-2022, 12:17 PM
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Any word of other classes other than 11/1 being cancelled?
Don’t quit your current job and damn sure don’t sign a new apartment lease or go buy a new.
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Old 10-17-2022, 12:36 PM
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Don’t quit your current job and damn sure don’t sign a new apartment lease or go buy a new.
I have other offers but prefer RPA. Looking to see if there are other applicants in the same boat here.
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Old 10-17-2022, 12:58 PM
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Originally Posted by AirlineViolin View Post
I have other offers but prefer RPA. Looking to see if there are other applicants in the same boat here.
You might check the threads of those “other offers.” They may be having the same sort of problem.

A whole lot of regionals are Captain limited. Skywest has already announced mandatory upgrades of those FOs with over 1000 hours. You can’t fly a flight without a CA, and they can AT MOST fly 1000 hrs a year. Adding FOs in excess of the available CAs simply means those FOs (as a group) will be getting fewer and fewer hours delaying their ability to upgrade.
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
You might check the threads of those “other offers.” They may be having the same sort of problem.

A whole lot of regionals are Captain limited. Skywest has already announced mandatory upgrades of those FOs with over 1000 hours. You can’t fly a flight without a CA, and they can AT MOST fly 1000 hrs a year. Adding FOs in excess of the available CAs simply means those FOs (as a group) will be getting fewer and fewer hours delaying their ability to upgrade.
If you are a new hire F/O you should consider going to a Regional that has forced upgrades. That way as an F/O you can actually fly and log hours, to get you to you final airline quicker. (Without working on their days off or dropping their reserve schedules) the average reserve F/O at Republic is only flying about 30-hours per month.
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Old 10-17-2022, 01:36 PM
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Originally Posted by Excargodog View Post
You might check the threads of those “other offers.” They may be having the same sort of problem.

A whole lot of regionals are Captain limited. Skywest has already announced mandatory upgrades of those FOs with over 1000 hours. You can’t fly a flight without a CA, and they can AT MOST fly 1000 hrs a year. Adding FOs in excess of the available CAs simply means those FOs (as a group) will be getting fewer and fewer hours delaying their ability to upgrade.
I have Endeavor and Piedmont.
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Originally Posted by AirlineViolin View Post
I have Endeavor and Piedmont.
Both are good companies. Piedmont pays double what Endeavor pays. But go to whoever can get you in an actual class AND has a base where you want to live. Good Luck. Times are Changing FAST in aviation
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Old 10-17-2022, 03:42 PM
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Originally Posted by AirlineViolin View Post
I have Endeavor and Piedmont.
I’m not that familiar other than both of them are giving bonuses for DECs which suggests they are hurting for CAs too.
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Originally Posted by AirlineViolin View Post
I have other offers but prefer RPA. Looking to see if there are other applicants in the same boat here.
This is me. But wondering if I should go to a place that’s flying more in order to progress quicker in my career…..
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