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Old 07-04-2012 | 05:40 PM
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Just guessing here. And of course this is all dependent on whether there is a strike. Not a sure thing.

Initial training classes would be cancelled wherever they are and at whatever phase, whether indoc, systems or sim, and the trainees sent home. Any classes that are not cancelled would be on the far side of the picket line, though and off the edge of the map, in the place where it says "Here Be Monsters."

Return to training would be covered by a back to work agreement.

Recurrent and PC for established pilots might be different, however those classes would also be on the far side so I doubt anyone would attend.

I miss my former colleagues. A lot. I do not miss RAH.
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Old 07-04-2012 | 07:02 PM
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Let's simplify this...

The union will put out put out what activity is part of the strike, if it actually happens. If you get fired following what is put out by the union, you will 99% for sure be covered in a back to work agreement.
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Old 07-04-2012 | 07:17 PM
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Originally Posted by PurdueFlyer
Different situation. Comair only flew for Delta and was smaller than RAH. RAH flies for all 4 legacies and is much larger. Throw in an election in November and it's clear that the NMB won't release RAH. The political pressure against the NMB will be immense
That was back when Delta let one regional dominate a hub. Comair almost shut Cincinnati down. There was no PEB for Comair and this was under the Bush administration. Someone went in and told Bush Comair was on strike and he said Comair who?

Same thing will happen with RP. Nobody knows or cares who Republic is. Passengers will be re routed with no problem, even in an election year. Do you seriously think the Obama Labor Dept is going to go against the wishes of the Teamsters and the AFL CIO? Who do you think is manning the phone banks for Obama for America?

I worked at Comair and remember several people saying the same thing because Comair dominated Delta's second largest hub. Mainlines have prepared for this ever since the Comair strike. Like I said, this is huge for Republic people, but in the big picture you're a pretty small fish compared to the national transportation system.
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Old 07-04-2012 | 11:42 PM
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RAH...You're next Regional Airline Ch. 11 filing. HOPE that it doesn't happen, but if past events in the regional sector predict the future. I'd say it is likely if hypothetically the pilots get an amended contract with most of their demands intact...Regional airline shell game 101...rinse and repeat...GET out if you can, it isn't worth it...
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Old 07-05-2012 | 06:03 AM
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Originally Posted by BE19Pilot
RAH...You're next Regional Airline Ch. 11 filing. HOPE that it doesn't happen, but if past events in the regional sector predict the future. I'd say it is likely if hypothetically the pilots get an amended contract with most of their demands intact...Regional airline shell game 101...rinse and repeat...GET out if you can, it isn't worth it...
You sir are correct. We will get hosed in the long run...the only winners in this "regional" game are those willing or able to work for free and no scheduling rules. The circle of life is almost complete here at RAH.
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Old 07-05-2012 | 05:48 PM
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Originally Posted by BE19Pilot
RAH...You're next Regional Airline Ch. 11 filing. HOPE that it doesn't happen, but if past events in the regional sector predict the future. I'd say it is likely if hypothetically the pilots get an amended contract with most of their demands intact...Regional airline shell game 101...rinse and repeat...GET out if you can, it isn't worth it...
Yes, what he said. Ask the guys and gals at Comair and Pinnacle how the expensive CBA's are working out. Mainline has learned not to put all it's eggs in one basket... I hope it resolves 11th hour with something both parties can live with.
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Old 07-05-2012 | 06:26 PM
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Originally Posted by BE19Pilot
RAH...You're next Regional Airline Ch. 11 filing. HOPE that it doesn't happen, but if past events in the regional sector predict the future. I'd say it is likely if hypothetically the pilots get an amended contract with most of their demands intact...Regional airline shell game 101...rinse and repeat...GET out if you can, it isn't worth it...
Yes, what he said. Ask the guys and gals at Comair and Pinnacle how the expensive CBA's are working out. Mainline has learned not to put all it's eggs in one basket... I hope it resolves 11th hour with something both parties can live with.
The fixed fee side of RAH has the highest profit margin of any airline in the US...unfortunately they can hide in the losses from the other side. That said, if they can't pay me a decent wage to work for them...and I'm talking FO's in the 55k range and up, than they don't need to be in business. I'm not voting for anything that isn't a gigantic leap towards making this industry one I which we are respected and paid as the professionals that we are. This is my second airline, 6th year in this game, first time getting to voting on a CBA and I'll be damned of I'll vote in anything that is a regression or continuance of the crap we get. Now. Again, their job as management is to figure out how to make money with my new pay rate...it's a job that they get paid VERY well to do. I'm sure they will manage.
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Old 07-05-2012 | 09:42 PM
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Plenty of history to paint where this could go. Hoping for the best, but my family has been airline for 3 generations and I have lived the worst. Nothing like seeing your Dad jobless at midlife and a "Legacy" airline vanish. People's lives forever changed that didn't even have a dog in the fight. S'ok we gotta get ours, right? It's a gamble. Again, I hope it works out for everyone. I think a 50% pay raise would be unlikely given the state of things, but I will take it. I can save up for my unemployment...
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Old 07-06-2012 | 05:20 PM
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I'm sure just about everyone at Republic has at least the foundations of a backup plan if things go any further south in this cluster. Anyone there with more than a few months on property is sure to be tired of management's poor-mouthing, and is willing to fight to see reasonable wages and work rules in return for the service they provide. Republic may well find itself another entry in the annals of failed airlines some time in the future, but it won't be because their pilots tried to make it a livable place to work. Best of luck to my former co-workers. Fight for every dime. In the "worst" case, there IS life after RAH.
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Old 07-10-2012 | 06:11 AM
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any updates on this?
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