Republic - Ends Mediation
01-29-2013, 08:21 AM
#101
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Originally Posted by Killer51883
if there is no cancellation pay, no min day/rig, no changes to prevent reserve abuse, and no change to the vacancy system its a no vote. every pilot will use the companys contract offer to wipe our asses with untill they have those portions fixed. $12,000,000/2500+ pilots is less than $4800 a year. thats an insult to this pilot group and should be seen as an insult to all other groups.
Unfortunately, the Company has made it clear that they believe the Captains are already paid adequately. I think you will see a majority of the proverbial jelly beans going to the FO's.
01-29-2013, 08:31 AM
#102
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Originally Posted by zoooropa:1341602
Originally Posted by Killer51883
if there is no cancellation pay, no min day/rig, no changes to prevent reserve abuse, and no change to the vacancy system its a no vote. every pilot will use the companys contract offer to wipe our asses with untill they have those portions fixed. $12,000,000/2500+ pilots is less than $4800 a year. thats an insult to this pilot group and should be seen as an insult to all other groups.
Unfortunately, the Company has made it clear that they believe the Captains are already paid adequately. I think you will see a majority of the proverbial jelly beans going to the FO's.
01-29-2013, 10:08 AM
#103
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Originally Posted by Killer51883
if there is no cancellation pay, no min day/rig, no changes to prevent reserve abuse, and no change to the vacancy system its a no vote. every pilot will use the companys contract offer to wipe our asses with untill they have those portions fixed. $12,000,000/2500+ pilots is less than $4800 a year. thats an insult to this pilot group and should be seen as an insult to all other groups.
Originally Posted by Killer51883
If one managment group thinks we are worthless soon your managment will think the same. Particularly if your managment group is the same as republics.
01-29-2013, 11:01 AM
#104
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Originally Posted by magnus0322
It is the captain rates that are already industry average. Where the contract falls behind is the work rules. Captains will not be seeing much of an increase in regards to hourly rates. What we need is an increase in FO rates to bring them up industry average. The whole pilot group needs cancellation pay, duty rigs, 100% Deadhead pay, vacancy system that respects seniority, better bidding system that allows people to work 75 hrs max days off or 100 hrs min days off if they so choose, better vacation, better and cheaper health insurance, better reserve system assignment system, premium pay for open time pick up, etc.
But if I were BB there is no way I would sign a contract until I was forced to. There is NOTHING in it for him if he signs a contract, and the stock holders would hang him if he doesn't hold out until the very end. We all know the NMB will never let us strike because we provide too much lift. We won't see a contract in our lifetime until the union stops aiming to make this a career airline, because regional airlines that become career airlines go out of business.
01-30-2013, 07:09 PM
#107
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Originally Posted by Oskeewowow
What's a "ride of Teamsters?" Is it like Hoffa's personal roller coaster?
If anyone is qualified to define a "ride of Teamsters" it's the RAH pilots.
And, I don't know if it was intentional or subliminal, but if you say it's like a Jimmy Hoffa personal roller coaster, there is no one that has the right to argue with you.
01-31-2013, 12:28 PM
#108
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Originally Posted by bodean
It's about time to get ride of TEAMSTERS. It's obvisious, they can't get the job done that are union dues are paying for……..
This has nothing to do with the teamsters. There are two factors that have affected the negotiations.
1 the RLA puts labor at a dissadvantage
2 the union busting company laywer is golf buddies with a member of the NMB
Last edited by Killer51883; 01-31-2013 at 12:45 PM.
01-31-2013, 01:04 PM
#109
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Originally Posted by Killer51883
2 the union busting company laywer is golf buddies with a member of the NMB
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