Republic after the contract
09-15-2016 | 09:57 AM
#1401
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So is it fairly common to have super early reports on the first day of a trip and late releases on the final day? Or do the rigs help prevent that? Since RAH has so many outstations, it seems that this might happen on a regular basis.
Are there certain domiciles where the trips all seem to start early/end late?
Are there certain domiciles where the trips all seem to start early/end late?
Yes this is typical for an outstation.
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09-15-2016 | 10:49 AM
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There are hubs and outstations. You probably know what hubs are, but they are the big airports like JFK, EWR, LGA, etc, where the majors centralize their operations. Typically regionals don't do many early or late flights into or out of hubs because they're designed to feed the hubs with passengers. So regionals do the 5am departures out of the smaller cities to get people into the hubs and do the late departures out of hubs back to the smaller cities, called outstations.
Republic and a lot of other regionals like to cut costs, so they set up outstation bases at these smaller airports where crew rooms and maintenance hangars are cheaper. If you're willing to move, these can be nice for FO's because the cost of living is typically cheaper. However, if you commute there is a good probability you'll have to go in the night before or leave the day after your trips due to the early starts and late finishes. Also, if you don't live in a hub, you're probably looking at a 2 leg commute through a hub.
Republic and a lot of other regionals like to cut costs, so they set up outstation bases at these smaller airports where crew rooms and maintenance hangars are cheaper. If you're willing to move, these can be nice for FO's because the cost of living is typically cheaper. However, if you commute there is a good probability you'll have to go in the night before or leave the day after your trips due to the early starts and late finishes. Also, if you don't live in a hub, you're probably looking at a 2 leg commute through a hub.
09-15-2016 | 10:53 AM
#1404
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From: Gear Slinger
There are hubs and outstations. You probably know what hubs are, but they are the big airports like JFK, EWR, LGA, etc, where the majors centralize their operations. Typically regionals don't do many early or late flights into or out of hubs because they're designed to feed the hubs with passengers. So regionals do the 5am departures out of the smaller cities to get people into the hubs and do the late departures out of hubs back to the smaller cities, called outstations.
Republic and a lot of other regionals like to cut costs, so they set up outstation bases at these smaller airports where crew rooms and maintenance hangars are cheaper. If you're willing to move, these can be nice for FO's because the cost of living is typically cheaper. However, if you commute there is a good probability you'll have to go in the night before or leave the day after your trips due to the early starts and late finishes. Also, if you don't live in a hub, you're probably looking at a 2 leg commute through a hub.
Republic and a lot of other regionals like to cut costs, so they set up outstation bases at these smaller airports where crew rooms and maintenance hangars are cheaper. If you're willing to move, these can be nice for FO's because the cost of living is typically cheaper. However, if you commute there is a good probability you'll have to go in the night before or leave the day after your trips due to the early starts and late finishes. Also, if you don't live in a hub, you're probably looking at a 2 leg commute through a hub.
09-15-2016 | 11:09 AM
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There are hubs and outstations. You probably know what hubs are, but they are the big airports like JFK, EWR, LGA, etc, where the majors centralize their operations. Typically regionals don't do many early or late flights into or out of hubs because they're designed to feed the hubs with passengers. So regionals do the 5am departures out of the smaller cities to get people into the hubs and do the late departures out of hubs back to the smaller cities, called outstations.
Republic and a lot of other regionals like to cut costs, so they set up outstation bases at these smaller airports where crew rooms and maintenance hangars are cheaper. If you're willing to move, these can be nice for FO's because the cost of living is typically cheaper. However, if you commute there is a good probability you'll have to go in the night before or leave the day after your trips due to the early starts and late finishes. Also, if you don't live in a hub, you're probably looking at a 2 leg commute through a hub.
Republic and a lot of other regionals like to cut costs, so they set up outstation bases at these smaller airports where crew rooms and maintenance hangars are cheaper. If you're willing to move, these can be nice for FO's because the cost of living is typically cheaper. However, if you commute there is a good probability you'll have to go in the night before or leave the day after your trips due to the early starts and late finishes. Also, if you don't live in a hub, you're probably looking at a 2 leg commute through a hub.
09-15-2016 | 11:09 AM
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Yes, essentially. It's always the greater of. Never a combination. The duty rig is 1:2. The trip rig is 1:4. So on a daily basis you are paid at a minimum of 4:12(min day guarantee, MDG). You are paid based on block or better for what you fly and deadhead, but you will never be paid less than MDG on any given day. Now you take that and compare it to the trip rig which pays you 1 hour of flight pay for each 2 hours of duty and on a daily basis you will get paid the greater of the two. You do this for each day of the trip and add them all up to compare against the trip rig. The trip rig pays you 1 hour of flight pay for every 4 hours TAFB and whichever is more the trip rig or what you calculated for each day is what you will get paid for that trip.
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09-15-2016 | 11:21 AM
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Yes. The more senior you become, the better schedules you will be able to bid for, which makes commuting easier. Passrider.com is a good site to see what your flight options are from where you live to a potential base.
09-15-2016 | 11:26 AM
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It can be great, but they tend to open and close them a lot. It's all contracted flying, so the company has to keep the flying in and out of the base for it to be viable (hubs too). I've been at two bases that have closed and I'm on my third now which is rumored to close since they moved maintenance out of it. That would have been a lot of moving in 3 years at the company. There are some more senior guys who have seen 7-10 of their bases close. It's really best to just try to get in and get out of the regionals if your life circumstances warrant that. Very few bases are "safe" to plant roots in.
Yes. The more senior you become, the better schedules you will be able to bid for, which makes commuting easier. Passrider.com is a good site to see what your flight options are from where you live to a potential base.
Yes. The more senior you become, the better schedules you will be able to bid for, which makes commuting easier. Passrider.com is a good site to see what your flight options are from where you live to a potential base.
09-15-2016 | 02:58 PM
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Lots of Navy guys in RAH. Some helos, some fixed wing. Most of us finished flying desks out of the Pentagon or DC.
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09-15-2016 | 03:11 PM
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