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01-17-2016 | 06:19 PM
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We have a couple of outliers that aren't great, but for the most part we stay in fairly nice places. Doubletree's, Crown Plaza's, Sheratons, Holiday Inn/ Express for the most part. Also a few Hiltons and Westin's now. The worst we have in my opinion is the quality inn in TLH. Other people hated Salvatore's in BUF but I don't think we stay there anymore.
Overall I don't have a lot of complaints, the Hotel Quality Handbook (new under our CBA) should be done shortly, we'll see if that changes anything.
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Overall I don't have a lot of complaints, the Hotel Quality Handbook (new under our CBA) should be done shortly, we'll see if that changes anything.
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01-17-2016 | 06:50 PM
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Endeavor pays you $160,000 over your first 3 years and RAH pays you $110,000. Which airline has shown that is willing to pay you what a pilot is worth and which one isn't. Now which one do you think will have you stay at Super 8's?
Rinse and repeat that logic for everything else at RAH that surprises you.
01-17-2016 | 06:58 PM
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If you are attempting to say RAH doesn't pay their pilots what they ware worth based on your summary below, what say ye about the rest of the regionals who pay less than $90K per year?
Why are you shocked?
Endeavor pays you $160,000 over your first 3 years and RAH pays you $110,000. Which airline has shown that is willing to pay you what a pilot is worth and which one isn't. Now which one do you think will have you stay at Super 8's?
Rinse and repeat that logic for everything else at RAH that surprises you.
Endeavor pays you $160,000 over your first 3 years and RAH pays you $110,000. Which airline has shown that is willing to pay you what a pilot is worth and which one isn't. Now which one do you think will have you stay at Super 8's?
Rinse and repeat that logic for everything else at RAH that surprises you.
01-17-2016 | 07:04 PM
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The reason why I would put RAH near the bottom is because they likely will be going through the most pains out of the others.
Endeavor offers the best package right now and after that you are looking at similar pay at the rest, you just have to factor in their attrition and movement opportunities and bases.
01-17-2016 | 07:20 PM
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Endeavor - $159,000
RAH - $119,100-131,600
Envoy - $88,808
Xjet - $99,300
Mesa - $79,196
That was 7 minutes worth of effort. I'll let you show me the rest who are up to $110K as RAH and Endeavor are.
RAH - $119,100-131,600
Envoy - $88,808
Xjet - $99,300
Mesa - $79,196
That was 7 minutes worth of effort. I'll let you show me the rest who are up to $110K as RAH and Endeavor are.
Most of the regionals are around the $100,000-$110,000 over 3 year range like RAH now. Only Endeavor has separated itself.
The reason why I would put RAH near the bottom is because they likely will be going through the most pains out of the others.
Endeavor offers the best package right now and after that you are looking at similar pay at the rest, you just have to factor in their attrition and movement opportunities and bases.
The reason why I would put RAH near the bottom is because they likely will be going through the most pains out of the others.
Endeavor offers the best package right now and after that you are looking at similar pay at the rest, you just have to factor in their attrition and movement opportunities and bases.
01-17-2016 | 07:31 PM
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As for pay at others, most are pushing the the same $100,000-$110,000 range to keep staffing their airlines. Endeavor is the only one pushing $160,000+ and RAH isn't even in the ballpark and add their risk with shrinking on top of that.
01-17-2016 | 07:37 PM
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We're talking base pay here. Neither you nor I have the time nor energy to add up things like 401K and DH/CXL pay.
XJet also has 2+ years sitting on reserve, which means you won't get your 1,000 121 time for 2-3 years. And that is priceless when it comes to movement to a mainline.
Each place has its particular attraction for different folks. Money is not everything to everyone. In my examples here, XJet will pay $20K per year more than Mesa. But it will take twice as long at XJet to have the minimums to be hired at mainline, which will have HUGE pay differential over 10 years down the road. Hard to calculate, impossible to argue.
XJet also has 2+ years sitting on reserve, which means you won't get your 1,000 121 time for 2-3 years. And that is priceless when it comes to movement to a mainline.
Each place has its particular attraction for different folks. Money is not everything to everyone. In my examples here, XJet will pay $20K per year more than Mesa. But it will take twice as long at XJet to have the minimums to be hired at mainline, which will have HUGE pay differential over 10 years down the road. Hard to calculate, impossible to argue.
I don't think you really understand how RAH's pay stacks up against Envoy and Xjet. Xjet has a far superior contract that includes 100% match of 4% and 2.5% DC on top of that. Envoy has a real flow and movement, while RAH doesn't.
As for pay at others, most are pushing the the same $100,000-$110,000 range to keep staffing their airlines. Endeavor is the only one pushing $160,000+ and RAH isn't even in the ballpark and add their risk with shrinking on top of that.
As for pay at others, most are pushing the the same $100,000-$110,000 range to keep staffing their airlines. Endeavor is the only one pushing $160,000+ and RAH isn't even in the ballpark and add their risk with shrinking on top of that.
01-17-2016 | 07:45 PM
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Ummm, 401K matters. 50% match on 401K is not equal to 162.5% match on a 401K (4% at 100% plus a free 2.5%). That actually means you need to make a 4-5% higher adjustment on Xjet's rates when compared to RAH's.
01-17-2016 | 07:47 PM
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And all of that can be rendered meaningless in a week due to a market decline. Let's see what happens in the coming months...
And not everyone is smart enough, or able, to max out their 401K. Don't try to change the subject by tossing in variables.
And not everyone is smart enough, or able, to max out their 401K. Don't try to change the subject by tossing in variables.
01-17-2016 | 07:52 PM
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It always seems odd to me that people always include it as a 100% guarentee. As of now come 35 months from now it's gone and they are out from being "#1".
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