2019-AA A321 wing strike departing JFK
07-25-2022, 01:10 PM
#21
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Two 58 year olds scraped a wing and almost cartwheeled an A320 on takeoff because of poor crosswind control, and were hanging onto the tail of the plane trying to figure out what happened. But by all means, let's raise the retirement age.
So we should move the retirement age to 57? You have zero evidence age played a factor, and I’m only a bit over halfway to that age so I’m not trying to defend myself. This captain was one that slipped through the cracks.
07-25-2022, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by knewyork
So we should move the retirement age to 57? You have zero evidence age played a factor, and I’m only a bit over halfway to that age so I’m not trying to defend myself. This captain was one that slipped through the cracks.
Originally Posted by 01110011
Do you think he was a crappy pilot for decades and got lucky or do you think he was a decent pilot at one point until age got the best of him?
07-25-2022, 05:56 PM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Two 58 year olds scraped a wing and almost cartwheeled an A320 on takeoff because of poor crosswind control, and were hanging onto the tail of the plane trying to figure out what happened. But by all means, let's raise the retirement age.
07-25-2022, 06:03 PM
#24
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Originally Posted by CFIsoonToBeFO
We should probably raise the minimum Total Time to however many 1000’s of hours these two have. That extra time flying in the pattern in a 150 would come in handy.
07-25-2022, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Margaritaville
Two 58 year olds scraped a wing and almost cartwheeled an A320 on takeoff because of poor crosswind control, and were hanging onto the tail of the plane trying to figure out what happened. But by all means, let's raise the retirement age.
07-25-2022, 06:19 PM
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Flown with a lot of 65-73+ year olds in the fractional world. Watched a number of them slowly lose it in their last few years. None of them were in decline at 58. They may have not possessed great airmanship at that age, but it wasn’t decline.
07-25-2022, 10:23 PM
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A better summary would be “two career FO’s almost cartwheel an A321, one of them happened to be sitting in the left seat.”
Easy to scrape by and slip through the cracks in the right seat a major.
Take a look at the time breakdown. Captain had over 19k total time and less than 3k PIC in all aircraft types.
Easy to scrape by and slip through the cracks in the right seat a major.
Take a look at the time breakdown. Captain had over 19k total time and less than 3k PIC in all aircraft types.
07-26-2022, 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by spottedcow
A better summary would be “two career FO’s almost cartwheel an A321, one of them happened to be sitting in the left seat.”
Easy to scrape by and slip through the cracks in the right seat a major.
Take a look at the time breakdown. Captain had over 19k total time and less than 3k PIC in all aircraft types.
Easy to scrape by and slip through the cracks in the right seat a major.
Take a look at the time breakdown. Captain had over 19k total time and less than 3k PIC in all aircraft types.
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