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Old 02-17-2025 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by flightbag
So What caused the Endeavor aircraft to be upside down at CYYZ?
Gravity.



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Old 02-17-2025 | 01:01 PM
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
The Legacies should not be allowed to outsource flying as a cost saving measure. It should be required all their flying be done in house. Outsourcing concentrates inexperienced at the regional level affecting safety. Inexperience is better distributed at the LCC/ULCC simply because all flying is in house. Maybe Trump will catch on to this and do something about it. Maybe passengers will wake up to this fact and demand better accountability. At least colgan forced the legacies to disclose the operating airline on the ticket and fuselage(though in small print). As the legacies pick up hiring again we will only see more of this unfortunately.
So only regional pilots make mistakes, got it.
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Old 02-17-2025 | 01:02 PM
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Originally Posted by CGLimits
Regional airlines have been operating safely for decades. Major airlines today operate with highly inexperienced pilots compared to fifteen years ago. I have a feeling this accident had little to do with lack of experience. And isn’t Endeavor owned by Delta? You could argue that is in-house.
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Old 02-17-2025 | 01:02 PM
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Default Endeavor down

Endeavor CRJ-9 ends up its back in YYZ, everyone safe so far. Where are the wings?
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Old 02-17-2025 | 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by CatPilot1
The Legacies should not be allowed to outsource flying as a cost saving measure. It should be required all their flying be done in house. Outsourcing concentrates inexperienced at the regional level affecting safety. Inexperience is better distributed at the LCC/ULCC simply because all flying is in house. Maybe Trump will catch on to this and do something about it. Maybe passengers will wake up to this fact and demand better accountability. At least colgan forced the legacies to disclose the operating airline on the ticket and fuselage(though in small print). As the legacies pick up hiring again we will only see more of this unfortunately.


Here we go....
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Old 02-17-2025 | 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by 1Taco
what about the UAL 777 that did a nose-dive in Maui? Or the AA 777 that crossed an active runway while a 737 was on a takeoff roll? How’s that fit into your narrative?

Please don't feed the troll.
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Old 02-17-2025 | 01:05 PM
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Airport is reporting that they are aware of the incident. Talk about low keying it - a plane upside down, looks like at least one if not both wings torn off, and the airport is 'aware of the incident.'
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Old 02-17-2025 | 01:06 PM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
The CA reportedly has over 20 years at Endeavor. How does that fit your narrative?
I don't think this is the flex you think it is....

CatPilot does raise some interesting points. I don't agree with them all, but there are some points to ponder there for sure. Perhaps this will be looked at, or not.

Glad for the outcome, a few pax in ciritcal condition. Could have been much worse I think we can all agree on that. Let's hope for a speedy recovery for them.
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Old 02-17-2025 | 01:08 PM
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Originally Posted by JaCrispy
So only regional pilots make mistakes, got it.
Per capita they do make an inordinate amount.
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Old 02-17-2025 | 01:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo
I don't think this is the flex you think it is....
So 20 years at EDV means CA was a bad pilot and there is a reason why a legacy wouldn't hire them.

20 years at DAL, experienced best pilot in the world. No bad apples at mainline with 20 years of experience there.

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