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02-17-2025 | 04:49 PM

#61

Iwokeup thisway

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Definitely strange but glad everyone made it out alive. Pretty gusty conditions. From the looks of it, the plane came to rest about 1,500 feet from threshold of rwy 23.

02-17-2025 | 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by zippinbye

I know approx. zero about CRJs other than a 700/900 is mo betta than a 200 ... auto throttles, slats and sufficient thrust, stuff like that. But I must say that a wing that shears at the approprite stress factor is pretty handy in terms of removing most fuel (maybe there's a center tank?) from the final resting point of fuselage. Upside down hanging from a belt seems much more survivable with the wings out of the way. If there had to be a crash, this is a stroke of good fortune!

the 7/9 doesn’t have auto throttles.

02-17-2025 | 04:53 PM

#63

Whoopsmybad

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Originally Posted by CatPilot1

He had to interview. It wasn’t a straight flow. Do you even know how it works? It was probably a preferential interview for this person.

Do you know how it works? Obviously not. Endeavor has a straight flow now. Even people who were passed on in the past can flow.

02-17-2025 | 05:09 PM

#64

RippinClapBombs

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

The CA reportedly has over 20 years at Endeavor. How does that fit your narrative?

We all have friends at every airline— I’ve seen the crew list. Idk the seniority # required for 20 years at 9E but comparing the seniority # of the CA operating the flight to a CA DH’er in the back, I’d say your report is probably accurate.

I think it may potentially “fit a narrative” though. The FO appears to be a female— I did a quick name search and found someone that may be said FO. They played the audio of Endeavor checking in with Toronto tower and it appears to be a male voice that replied “cleared to land” (CA-PM, FO-PF).

02-17-2025 | 05:13 PM

#65

StoneQOLdCrazy

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If the retirement age was 68 this never would have happened

02-17-2025 | 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by YLight

Poor landing technique includes poor xwind control.

How about start learning how to land a fricking airliner and stop endangering our passengers? The pax were the ones shoved under the bus today, and not figuratively. You be passive and let it play out if you want. Maybe in a few years, the feds will come to the obvious conclusion that the recent crop of pilots can't land properly with more than 10 kt wind. Maybe they will continue to call a crash a "landing" as they did with PQI.
Speculation is great precisely because it keeps a conversation about safety at the forefront.

Brother the fire fighting foam isn't even dry yet and you're making baseless speculation. For all we know the wing attach could have failed and this is a maintenance problem.

I always love pilots who think they have perfect technique, never a bad landing in your life I assume sir? Gods gift to aviation are we?

FFS.

02-17-2025 | 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by eaff95

brother the fire fighting foam isn't even dry yet and you're making baseless speculation. For all we know the wing attach could have failed and this is a maintenance problem.

I always love pilots who think they have perfect technique, never a bad landing in your life i assume sir? Gods gift to aviation are we?

Ffs.

^^^^^^👍👍👍👍👍^^^^^^

02-17-2025 | 05:24 PM

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Originally Posted by CGLimits

Regional airlines have been operating safely for decades. Major airlines today operate with highly inexperienced pilots compared to fifteen years ago. I have a feeling this accident had little to do with lack of experience. And isn’t Endeavor owned by Delta? You could argue that is in-house.

Except for profit sharing , reroute pay, 18 percent 401K and a seniority number plus the FA's get payed crap and are used and abused. The entire WO concept is a sham.( Fee For Departure regional). This isn't 1978 flying a shorts 360 at Henson or Allegheny Commuter . Time to move into the new century.

02-17-2025 | 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by CBreezy

I can't explain why people don't jump? But maybe he lives in Minnesota and is a decade from retirement and enjoys his easy trips that he knows he'll never hold as an FO at Delta. And certainly, now with their pay rates, never hold for the amount he's being paid? Maybe, for some people, being A Delta Pilot isn't a life goal?

I can understand why someone would stay at a regional as a CA…. Could you imagine being stuck next to the tools like HK for multiple days on the road? Just to say hey I work for mainline no thanks. Good grief the amount of nonsense he spews really takes the cake on this one. Not even a few hours and he’s already jumping to massive conclusions. I also agree our training is an absolute joke compared to the multiple regional events I went through now wether that made me a better pilot or not is up for debate but to think that it was a cake walk?… I am sure it’s a lot less lax currently than it was just from friends still at the regionals but that’s not the point here.

02-17-2025 | 05:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Hotel Kilo

There'a a reason they are there for 20 years. It's not for their seniority, glamourous life at the regional or killer schedules. Yes, I know there are an infintesimal amount of outliers (people with side gigs and their work schedule works for that given their seniority etc) but that's not the main reason most stay stuck at a regional for that period of time.

It's not only Delta, all the legaices just went thru an tremendous hiring boom with crazy seniority progression (just look at our 2 year 76 captain(s) ). No, most of the cats, so called "sticking it out" at the regionals, are just flat out not hireable at a legacy. That's why they haven't moved on.

You do realize we did virtually the same thing in LGA…it just didn’t flip. Yes, mainline Delta not a regional, the “Through these door walk the best pilots in the business” airline. Those were the best of the best, because they made it to mainline…according to you.

I’m not badmouthing that or any crew but stop throwing rocks in glass houses. Your elitism highlights the entitlement. I’m embarrassed that some Delta pilots really think we are that special.

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