Thanks for the responses guys.

Haven't heard anything from anyone. I did see the asst. chief today and all he asked was how my student was...my student was really upset/thought he was in major trouble for the incident. He didn't mention anything else about it.

Another instructor said his manager/supervisor told him that stuff happens and nothing will happen.

About the chief instructor asking the FAA about an investigation: I did not hear straight out of his mouth, the records lady said she heard him ask it. Could be a rumor for all I know as I haven't heard anything from management in almost a week. Really appreciate the responses.

 

It's a storm in a teacup. We never want to see even minor damage to an airplane, but when it happens as CFIs we have to deal with it. I have a student that I inherited from another instructor whom I never met, who ran his Skyhawk into a ditch on the last stop of his long cross country. Nothing really serious happened fortunately, but a lot of damage was done to this poor guy emotionally. After a flight or two I realized this fellow had received almost no training on crosswinds, landing flares, or ground handling and having an accident was 100% likely with such a lack of training. I spent a lesson doing aborted takeoffs on a long runway with him. You should have seen the "aha" look on his face after about the third one. He is almost done with his training now and is an excellent student.

 

Ok gotcha.

One, I didn't think this would qualify as an incident considering the lack of damage and the fact it happened during taxi. They didn't have to report it therefore I wouldn't see any reason somebody should have to put this on their application as an incident.

Two, I guess that would make sense the airlines would ask employers about incidents, accidents, whether or not you were terminated/asked to resign, etc. But do they ask every one of your previous employers if you were a good employee and had a good work ethic/performance? I think it would be a little unfair if you just had a boss that hated you and gave you a bad reference.

 

Now think about that Airframe. Ground looping an airplane during taxi wouldn't qualify as an incident or accident?
Here is the definition of an aircraft accident from Appendix F of JO 8020.16A (Air Traffic Organization Aircraft Accident and Incident Notification, Investigation, and Reporting):
and an Incident:
Now this part I guess changes with State Law - but I was under the impression that references could basically only confirm the fact that you did in fact work there during the times in question. Now personal references are a different set of rules. If they get hold of one of your references, who provides them with additional references, etc....then they could obviously come across someone who has some less than falttering things to say about you.
If not - -then you are seing why people work so hard not to burn bridges at previous employers

USMCFLYR

 

Yes, they will generally call all of your previous employers going back 5-10 ten years depending on the airline.

Some low-budget airlines may rely on PRIA alone, but an incident like this could easily appear on a PRIA response.

Vindictive ex-bosses kill pilot careers every single day...the industry is very sensitive to past performance, so much so that they always err on the side of caution at the slightest hint of trouble. Sucks but all you can do is pick your bosses carefully and suck up to them...hate to say it but in GA you simply can't afford to burn bridges.

The only way I'd chance it is if the boss promised not to tell any future employers...and he was also my dad or older brother.

 

So what about a flat tire on takeoff/landing? Would that count as an incident?

 

Not being investigated by FAA and it's not going on my record (I asked about PRIA or if it would count as an incident). Saw the asst. chief instructor today.

Thanks for the help, fellow pilots!

 

Not sure how the FAA would look at such a thing unless it caused damage to the aircraft. I imagine that if it caused you to run off the runwy, flip over, burst the fuel tank, ignite an explosion, killing you in the aircraft and innocent bystanders ; then yes - it would be an accident (or as I call it a mishap).
It could be viewed as an expendable item - like a light bulb burning out.

USMCFLYR

 

There's a difference between an FAA/NTSB incident and an incident as far as employers are concerned.

To an employer an incident is any FAR violation, damage, or injury to any person or aircraft whether it was your fault or not. An incident is far more serious in the eyes of an employer if they find out about it from someone other than you.