C-172 hits car at 52F (Roanoke, TX)
11-05-2012, 12:02 PM
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Originally Posted by seahawker01
I think you are on to something. I doubt that the pilot ever saw the car.
Seems like the plane would have the right-away in this situation, kind of like how a train does in an unguarded crossing.
Just my .02
11-05-2012, 01:27 PM
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Originally Posted by seahawker01
I think you are on to something. I doubt that the pilot ever saw the car.
It's been a number of years since I've flown a Cessna, but it would seem that in the left seat, short final, you'd have to be looking far to the right to note the car. It's not as if it was sitting stationary off the end of the runway.
11-05-2012, 04:24 PM
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Originally Posted by Std Deviation
I tried to analyze this one from both angles: as a pilot that knows that airport (about 10 miles from the house and have landed/trained students there) and as a psychologist.
I'm going with inattentional blindness (ever seen the video with the students playing basketball?).
I'm going with inattentional blindness (ever seen the video with the students playing basketball?).
11-05-2012, 06:44 PM
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Interestingly, I was reviewing a procedure today that requires the pilot to LOCK the gates at the FAF via clicking the mic. thereby preventing traffic from traveling on roads that look very similar to that one in the video.
It may not be realistic to say that the pilot "should have seen" the car, based on human factors.
It may not be realistic to say that the pilot "should have seen" the car, based on human factors.
11-06-2012, 02:52 AM
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Originally Posted by HIFLYR
I never noticed the gorilla until told it was there that was amazing!
Some significant items change - Coke can changes to Sprike, girls hair goes from straight to ponytail, keys on table change to wallet, etc.
Very small percentage of people catch even one item because they're so focused on the conversation. Sometimes you miss things right in front of you.
11-06-2012, 05:46 AM
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Yeahbut...he was operating into an airport where he KNEW there is a roadway right at the end of the runway. I will ass-u-me this was not the first time this student pilot has been there as he had his wife videoing it. Was it his home field? If it was, even less of an excuse, for not checking the roadway for trafic prior to crossing the 'fence'.
Oh, and he was very low, obviously, or none of this would have happened.
Now, the tools in the car also should have at least stopped and taken a look in that diretion, so they are both (pilot and driver) guilty of not checking for the most obvious threat.
Oh, and he was very low, obviously, or none of this would have happened.
Now, the tools in the car also should have at least stopped and taken a look in that diretion, so they are both (pilot and driver) guilty of not checking for the most obvious threat.
11-06-2012, 06:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Timbo
Yeahbut...he was operating into an airport where he KNEW there is a roadway right at the end of the runway. I will ass-u-me this was not the first time this student pilot has been there as he had his wife videoing it. Was it his home field? If it was, even less of an excuse, for not checking the roadway for trafic prior to crossing the 'fence'.
Oh, and he was very low, obviously, or none of this would have happened.
Now, the tools in the car also should have at least stopped and taken a look in that diretion, so they are both (pilot and driver) guilty of not checking for the most obvious threat.
Oh, and he was very low, obviously, or none of this would have happened.
Now, the tools in the car also should have at least stopped and taken a look in that diretion, so they are both (pilot and driver) guilty of not checking for the most obvious threat.
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