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Old 03-29-2013, 08:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Yoda2 View Post
...you probably considered component and gusts as well... That can make it game over in a heartbeat...
Without a doubt - 11-20 kt was gust-inclusive. Bear in mind this is in a turboprop with phenomenal (in the 200) field performance.

Again, never, ever in a jet.
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Old 04-08-2013, 11:30 AM
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Yes. EWR tower does not like to switch from 22's to 4's, and there is plenty of backlash/resistance to switch, specially if they got a departure push coming.
Do you remember a few years ago at JFK, there was an American that declared an emergency because of runway/winds? What ever came out of that if anything? If a guy at EWR can't accept the runway, are they just forced to divert?
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I've been based in EWR since 1996. Never done a landing with a tailwind. Have had lots of crosswinds. IAH is where I get my tailwinds.
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if its just one, usually no, they wont. If there are multiple aircraft complaining, and refusing to take it, they will make the change (as it was the case today).

Ajax, how long have you been in the EWR tower? The reason I ask, many years ago, like 1979-81, I flew in and out of there quite a bit, and there was a guy named Bill in the tower who worked the night shift. Great guy, Loved working with him. Do you know what ever happened to him? I remember they would put a lit up Christmas Tree on the balcony of the tower every year too.

We were always coming down from Boston in a turbo prop hauling cancelled checks, 4 nights a week M-Th, into EWR about 9pm, down the east river at 3,000', go to the Statue make a right for 29, taxi to Buttocks Aggravation (Butler Aviation), fill up, get our clearance on the fly and roll off 29 again for Detroit. On the way back at 5am, it was "Go to the Bud Plant" for 11, quick turn again, and on our way back to Boston.

I'm guessing Bill must have retired many years ago, I hope he is well. If you do talk to him, tell him "Happy Heineken" said Hi.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:19 PM
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Do you remember a few years ago at JFK, there was an American that declared an emergency because of runway/winds? What ever came out of that if anything? If a guy at EWR can't accept the runway, are they just forced to divert?

I remember hearing something about it, but don't recall what happened in that case.

I've seen a force divert from EWR a couple times, though usually they'll try to work something out to avoid this.
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Old 04-08-2013, 07:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Timbo View Post
Ajax, how long have you been in the EWR tower? The reason I ask, many years ago, like 1979-81, I flew in and out of there quite a bit, and there was a guy named Bill in the tower who worked the night shift. Great guy, Loved working with him. Do you know what ever happened to him? I remember they would put a lit up Christmas Tree on the balcony of the tower every year too.

We were always coming down from Boston in a turbo prop hauling cancelled checks, 4 nights a week M-Th, into EWR about 9pm, down the east river at 3,000', go to the Statue make a right for 29, taxi to Buttocks Aggravation (Butler Aviation), fill up, get our clearance on the fly and roll off 29 again for Detroit. On the way back at 5am, it was "Go to the Bud Plant" for 11, quick turn again, and on our way back to Boston.

I'm guessing Bill must have retired many years ago, I hope he is well. If you do talk to him, tell him "Happy Heineken" said Hi.
I work at New York approach (N90), in the EWR area, not at EWR tower, however I do remember Bill. He transferred to N90 around '92, and worked for many years in the Liberty sector, then he transferred back to EWR tower for his final couple years before retiring.
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