cardiomd

IF?? They have helmet-cam footage of her being run over that then pulled, and the chief subsequently banned helmet-cams for "privacy." Everybody was off the plane when they got there. The firefighters thought she was already dead.

Video sheds light on Flight 214 passenger's death - SFGate

I have nothing but sympathy for the dead girl and her family (in addition to the responders), but the pax are the important ones here.

So again I apologize if my words came across as harsh, not what I meant. I just view this is as a huge and essential learning opportunity.

cardiomd

And before sign off for the night, just one last pic of a younger (6+ years ago) Debbie to give Shy some sweet dreams.



"Make your initial approach!"

11Fan

Advise on initial contact you have Hotel.

ShyGuy

Wow. And people tell me I'm obsessed? I didn't know Obama had re-appointed her for another 3 years. Shows how much I follow anything related to her or to Obama, he's too much of a train wreck to follow.

Social media is overrated. Why do we live in a society that is so "look at ME" oriented. Just glance through the average person's facebook or twitter and it's filled with dozens of pictures of themselves. Ugh. I don't have a twitter account and hardly ever use facebook. If the NTSB wants to release information, put it on their website for links we can click on. Stop "tweeting" information. My primary issue with the direction the leader of the NTSB has chosen is to release tidbits of information out of context just a day or two after the crash. That's another part of society, people want answers and they want them today. People used to be patient. But not anymore. If I was leading an investigation, my media statement would be simply that we are aware of the accident, are investigating it, and will put out a preliminary report soon. (Btw, have you even seen preliminary reports for the Asiana or Southwest or UPS crash? ---- whole lotta press statements without issuing a single report - and that should say something).

DeadHead

So your issue is not with the fact that information was released, but the method in which the information was released?

cardiomd

Bravo! Bravo, good sir.

She is clear to taxi with Romeo (if ShyGuy has success).

Timbo

Well it's been over two months since this accident. The pilots are all alive, the NTSB had the CVR and FDR on day one, they've interviewed the pilots, there is even video footage of the accident.

WHERE IS THE REPORT?

I'll bet it's being rewritten over and over, to be politically acceptable to the Korean government. And you know Boeing isn't going to want to be blamed for this fiasco, not with all those lawsuits pending!

Anyone been through 777 recurrent lately got any scoop on what these guys were really doing with the FMS and autopilot?

USMCFLYR

My hatred of social media probably exceeds yours - so I can understand that. This site is the ONLY avenue of social media in which I partake. No Twitter, no FaceBook, no MySpace, not even LinkedIn. Heck - I even have a minimial number of Apps on my phone (I am a fan of ForeFlight )
I think people put way too much out there in cyberspace and people talk about things on their blogs and such that ought not be shared with the world.

All that said - it has been proven that the Asiana mishap wasn't the first time they put out information quickly ShyGuy - you know that now - and it wasn't the last - see UPS crash. It is the way that information is disseminated in today's instant age. That has nothing to do with the person releasing the information. You initial attacks on the Chairwoman has a personal tag to them. That is another reason why people started pinging you on the obession track. It is a little humor at your expense - and the more you fight it the more some are going to ping you on it.

If that was your approach to accident information in today's environment - to not release any information - your tenure would indeed be short. I suppose in a different context (the Navy Yard shootings), you would get up there in front of the media and report hat there had in fact been a mass murder and there might even be an unaccounted for shooter, but there is an invesitgation on-going and you'll find out when I'm done.

MD11Fr8Dog

No obsession here, and I didn't see itnon Twitter. It's on the NTSB site. Here's a link you can click on

https://www.ntsb.gov/about/bio_hersman.html

ShyGuy

Partially correct. See this part:

"My primary issue with the direction the leader of the NTSB has chosen is to release tidbits of information out of context just a day or two after the crash. That's another part of society, people want answers and they want them today. People used to be patient. But not anymore. If I was leading an investigation, my media statement would be simply that we are aware of the accident, are investigating it, and will put out a preliminary report soon. (Btw, have you even seen preliminary reports for the Asiana or Southwest or UPS crash? ---- whole lotta press statements without issuing a single report - and that should say something)."

Put another way, if you are going to stand in front of the country and start releasing facts as to what's known "so far" just 2 days after the crash, then put out a preliminary report at the same time. If you feel you don't have enough information for even a preliminary report, then you shouldn't be saying anything nationally to the media/public. Let the investigation take its course over time. Patience is a virtue todays average person (and the media) do not have.