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Old 10-05-2013, 07:33 AM
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Disregard. If this drags on too long I'd think they'd grant an emergency extension to 150 or 180 days.
The ramp check guys won't be around to catch you anyway.
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Old 10-05-2013, 08:51 PM
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Originally Posted by PerfInit View Post
Although it might seem great "on the surface" that the Feds have no oversight of aviation right now due to the government shutdown, here is a list of things that are not getting done, which will ultimately impact the safety and integrity of the entire aviation system in the USA:

1. Applications for Pilot Certificates are not being processed
2. Flight Simulators are not being evaluated for continuing qualification
3. Check Airman and APD's qualifications are not being maintained
4. Navaids are not being inspected
5. Training Program revisions are not being approved

If this shutdown continues long term, real effects will be felt by everyone in the aviation community.

If you have not already done so, I encourage you to contact your elected officials.
Are you really worried about this?
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Old 10-05-2013, 09:06 PM
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Since the FAA shutdown, I now give position reports at every fix...you know...just in case.
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Old 10-06-2013, 04:48 AM
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Originally Posted by KC10 FATboy View Post
Are you really worried about this?
Maybe for different reasons - but yes - some of us are worried about the shutdown.

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Old 10-06-2013, 06:46 AM
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I am personally more concerned about the Debt Ceiling deadline, Oct 17, versus the govt shutdown itself. There are other world-wide topics that concern me also, such as our 2014 complete pull-out (what Karzai is pushing...) of Afghan and other hot pockets
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Old 10-06-2013, 01:38 PM
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Originally Posted by USMCFLYR View Post
Maybe for different reasons - but yes - some of us are worried about the shutdown.
Are you flying/working during the shutdown?
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:16 PM
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Somehow we all knew that this shutdown wouldn't affect HIM.
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Old 10-06-2013, 02:56 PM
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The fallout due to the shutdown is insidious... Right now, most Flight Standards personnel are still furloughed. The effects to aviation depend on the length of the shutdown. If the shutdown goes for 30 days, then the furloughees get RIF'd (basically terminated). There are thousands of Designees (APD's, TCE's, DPE's) that depend on their POI's for renewal of Designation (testing/checking privileges).

Part 121 Aircrew Program Designees (APD's) must be renewed every 12 months. If they expire, they can no longer keep their fleet's Check Airmen current, issue paper certificates, conduct IOE, or give proficiency checks. If the APD's expire, then the Check Airmen have no-one qualified to observe them (Required every 24 months by regulation). Eventually the Check Airmen will become unqualified as well.

Part 135 Check Airman must be observed every 24 months by their POI. With no POI's at work, then there are no observations being done. Without a 135.339 within the past 24 months, Part 135 Check Airmen will lose their qualifications.

Flight Simulators require annual evaluations by the FAA's NSP. If the device's Statement of Qualification (SOQ) expires, then the Simulator cannot be used for any training/testing/checking.

Am I concerned? Absolutely...
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Old 10-06-2013, 03:01 PM
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also revenue via income taxes has stopped for those who are without pay.

By the way, Congress is getting paid.
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Old 10-06-2013, 03:31 PM
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No worries, the administration will still use the IRS to target it's political opponents.
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