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jungle 03-16-2014 07:11 PM

When speculation has run its course there is always time to chew on the mods for any imagined slight.:D

Some of us can carry a gunnysack full of grudges for years.

Maybe we can talk about ALPA for a while.:D

Captain Bligh 03-16-2014 07:12 PM

What if..... in a collaborative effort with the financier of the stollen passport holders, the aircraft was stolen for a purpose? Like a dirty bomb or nuclear device delivery vehicle?

I always said, when I flew it inserting troops to the gulf, was that it was the perfect bomber platform. It could fly so high and fast that NATO fighters that attempted to intercept us for practice (which was allowed since we were using CRAFT mission call signs) often couldn't reach us. Especially ones form EU nations with limited range and airspace. We would pass overhead at 37,000 feet doing .84 mach and they just couldn't close the distance given what they had to work with. The airplane has the ability to haul/deliver 100,000 pounds of payload an incredible distance. If terrorists stole it for a suicide mission, or imagine malicious intent, pick a city and it's gone. There's no way anyone in most of the governments in the world, has the testosterone to shoot down a civilian airliner given the history of how well that's worked in the past, nor with the current administrations at the helm of western governments.

Even if terrorists or a foreign power just landed a 777 full of commandos somewhere after an intercept and started shooting their way out of the airplane, there isn't a civilian airport in the world that would be prepared for it. This is one of the problems with exporting technology for the sake of $$$$$, hoping to replace the cash flow from previously exported manufacturing jobs.

Here's the thing, there's almost always a business man or two that have several global sat phones, one in their pocket one in a briefcase. Unless they killed everyone enroute, someone would make a call. As this story unfolds however; I think most people should hope and pray it crashed.

TonyC 03-16-2014 07:13 PM


Originally Posted by Captain Bligh (Post 1603696)

new guy? 2850 posts?


Mazster is the new guy who has received the warm welcome. ;)

I was speaking in his defense.





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TonyC 03-16-2014 07:14 PM


Originally Posted by jungle (Post 1603715)

When speculation has run its course there is always time to chew on the mods for any imagined slight.:D

Some of us can carry a gunnysack full of grudges for years.

Maybe we can talk about ALPA for a while.:D


And when you have no defense, break out ALPA gripes.






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jungle 03-16-2014 07:22 PM


Originally Posted by TonyC (Post 1603719)
And when you have no defense, break out ALPA gripes.






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That was a joke, but I can see your sense of humor has gone way south.:D

Yoda2 03-16-2014 07:49 PM

Is it time to start a new category?; maybe titled "I feel offended" or "Take it Outside"...

FlyJSH 03-16-2014 08:30 PM

Folks, the answer is simple:



Not just a job, its an adventure

rickair7777 03-16-2014 08:36 PM

Good grief Tony, go have a beer.

Taped2Seat 03-16-2014 09:00 PM

Sorry to see this situation get the best of folks - to a large degree this is understandable - the scenario is a difficult one at best, and most theories short of Giorgio announcing aliens are failing to explain the inconclusive (and potentially) incorrect data/explanations we are receiving. Until a final conclusion is drawn, there will only be more- and less-likely explanations.

I am newbie and a flyer too, except I mostly don't control my fate - I am just a passenger. You have done an excellent job at delivering me or my packages to the right place, or kept my home safe - for that I thank you and my family and I will be always grateful.

But post-9/11, I came to understand there is something I can control - my reading onboard situations, taking note of important cues, and taking appropriate responses that can protect me or my fellow passengers. That's why I joined this board, to learn from you gentlemen and also to ask questions that, at times, may appear too simplistic. Some of these questions have to be asked because after 9/11 your fate and my fate as a passenger became more intertwined than before.

If I had been in MH370, unless I had traveled that leg often, I wouldn't know the difference between flying N or W, whether a sharp turn was warranted, or whether I was flying at FL300 or FL400 unless the crew informs me. Add 2am in a BFE time zone. It would be very easy for a pilot to take a plane somewhere else, to simulate a situation in the cabin and decompress, to take me FL high or low. That's scares me. Need to learn how to read these things so I can proactively help those who can be helped.

Fluglehrer 03-16-2014 09:01 PM

The captain intended to fly into the Petronas Towers or Malaysian government buildings as a protest/martyr revenge action, but after offing the passengers and turning toward land, I think he thought better of it, and just navigated the plane to a watery grave.

This reminds me of an A-10 RTU student and his final flight from Tucson to Colorado. Craig D. Button - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

I think Button and the Malaysian captain both intended to do worse, but somewhere after the initial action, even though they knew there was no turning back, they also recovered a small bit of sanity and at least didn't do more harm than they already had.

Interesting that we couldn't locate Button's A-10 for three weeks. Over land. In the U.S.

Makes me think we will possibly never locate this plane.


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