Malaysian 777 missing
03-08-2014, 10:55 AM
#71
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This B777 had a ground collision with another aircraft in 2012 and was subsequently repaired. Hopefully they followed the Boeing Structural Repair Manual to the T and dotted their i's.
It would be very unfortunate if this was another China 611.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...on-2012-n47706
It would be very unfortunate if this was another China 611.
http://www.nbcnews.com/storyline/mis...on-2012-n47706
03-08-2014, 11:14 AM
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Reference "no wx, clear skies."
Just thinking out loud here. 8-9 yrs ago, a Polar 747 flight from Singapore to HKG, cruising at FL390 in "no wx, clear skies" conditions suddenly hit extremely bad CAT. Jet flipped 120 degrees inverted and went into a massive high speed dive, almost Mach 1. My buddy got lucky, jet stayed intact, recovered plane at 15,000ft and limped to HKG. Don't know, just opining.
Just thinking out loud here. 8-9 yrs ago, a Polar 747 flight from Singapore to HKG, cruising at FL390 in "no wx, clear skies" conditions suddenly hit extremely bad CAT. Jet flipped 120 degrees inverted and went into a massive high speed dive, almost Mach 1. My buddy got lucky, jet stayed intact, recovered plane at 15,000ft and limped to HKG. Don't know, just opining.
03-08-2014, 11:27 AM
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I have a couple of friends that fly for Malaysian, they don't have any reservations about their maintenance program so I'm not really too incline to think that the previous damage had anything to do with this. I also flew that night although from Bangkok to Narita and the weather was clear all over SE Asia.
What's eating away at me is that ATC and the company stated that they lost contact with the A/C 2 hours into the flight, but the suspected area is 400 miles from Kuala Lumpur??? That would be 45 minutes into the flight (specially with the prevailing winds that evening) in a 4:50 planned flight, 2 hours would put them NE of the coast of Vietnam, just about being handover to Hong Kong??????
What's eating away at me is that ATC and the company stated that they lost contact with the A/C 2 hours into the flight, but the suspected area is 400 miles from Kuala Lumpur??? That would be 45 minutes into the flight (specially with the prevailing winds that evening) in a 4:50 planned flight, 2 hours would put them NE of the coast of Vietnam, just about being handover to Hong Kong??????
03-08-2014, 11:51 AM
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Originally Posted by The Dominican
What's eating away at me is that ATC and the company stated that they lost contact with the A/C 2 hours into the flight, but the suspected area is 400 miles from Kuala Lumpur??? That would be 45 minutes into the flight (specially with the prevailing winds that evening) in a 4:50 planned flight, 2 hours would put them NE of the coast of Vietnam, just about being handover to Hong Kong??????
03-08-2014, 01:03 PM
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Originally Posted by Hueypilot
Multiple sources are now reporting the stolen passport pax. Makes your hair stand up when you know there's a good chance that airplane broke up in flight.
And it further enhances the warm fuzzy feeling thinking about the Obama Administration giving the go ahead for the Abu Dhabi pre-clearance facility last month. Using our tax dollars to help it out of course.
03-08-2014, 01:10 PM
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Passports
About the passports.
So far I think "only" two statements are likely to be factual:
Certain other details would be informative and I am sure the investigator will look at those.
So far I think "only" two statements are likely to be factual:
- There were two passengers flying using stolen passports
- Both were stolen in Thailand.
Certain other details would be informative and I am sure the investigator will look at those.
- Time frame between the two thefts (one was reported Aug 2013)
- Location of the two thefts. IIRC there was an armed robbery of a hotel in Thailand around that time where three passports were stolen (along with cash) from safety deposit boxes at the reception of a hotel. The name of the hotel escapes me, but I think it was either Dynasty Hotel or Lek Hotel, but near top of Soi 13, Beach Road, Pattaya.
- Did both these passengers have same departure and arrival airports
- Did the both of these passengers book on or near the same day and/or use the same agency?
- If a destructive device may be suspected to be on the belly, did any of them originate from an airport with possibly insufficient screening and transfer in KUL.
- About a potential problems with Chinese immigration. That may be completely irrelevant if destructive was intended on the ship.
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