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Well if it's really in the sea I can't fathom any explanation other than a diversion to an alternate airport followed by something that rendered the crew and everyone else unconscious. I just can't believe a suicide would happen like this. I hope they're wrong.
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There are really only three possibilities: aircraft failure, crew involvement, or hijack.
Crew involvement or hijack are the most likely given the record of past events of this type. Anything else is just too far flung given what we now know, despite wild claims by a paid General. |
Originally Posted by Mazster
(Post 1609380)
The Washington Post reports in one of its stories re the timeline that at 1:07 local the last ACARS message was received and that according to U.S. officials it denoted that a change of course was programmed into the FMS. This was later refuted by the Malaysian government…whom are we to believe. Sometime shortly after that 1:07 xmision the data stream to ACARS was terminated…there was no 1:37 data stream. At 1:19 ATC receives the “Alright, Goodnight” voice xmision.
Question…IF the ACARS data packet does include the FMS flight plan program, could a change have been entered and detected without it having been executed? This would mean that it could have been entered anytime after the 12:40 takeoff. We are being told that the course did not change until after the xponder shut down after the 1:19 contact. I’m sorry if I am not expressing myself as clearly as possible, but I am curious to understand the sequence of events early on in the flight. Thanks. I would forget theorizing and worrying about possible alternate flight plans entered into the FMS prior to lost comms. It would be just as easy to put a waypoint into the FIX page, then manually slewing the heading bug to manually entered fix and turning via heading bug selection. What is claimed about flight plan entry prior to lost comms is irrelevant; we'll probably never know with certainty what was entered into the FMS. Right now they just need to find the first floating seat cushion or piece of wing. |
Originally Posted by jungle
(Post 1609599)
There are really only three possibilities: aircraft failure, crew involvement, or hijack.
Crew involvement or hijack are the most likely given the record of past events of this type. Anything else is just too far flung given what we now know, despite wild claims by a paid General. I agree. None of it makes sense, but crew involvement/hijack makes the most sense compared to the other theories, and hijacking doesn't fit as much as the other. As Edward G Robinson says in Double Indemnity, "No soap, Mr. Norton": Double Indemnity - Keyes Talks Suicide Statistics - YouTube |
Soon we will move from where to how and why.
One thing is for sure, there will be a movie about this flight one the dust has settled. |
My first post on this forum and I have only read up to page 48, so please excuse me if this has been posted earlier, anyhow chocks away...
Has anybody canvased the idea of what happened to Egyptair Flight 667 in 2011 had also happened to MH370 at 35,000ft? An electrical fire (ie arcing) in the avionics bay occurred at the gate on Flight 667. This burned through an oxygen feed line beside the co-pilot's position. http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps99936539.jpg http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/h...ps48f604d2.jpg Given the fact that MH370 last turned 40 degrees west at IGARI before the transponder feed disappeared (in a radar black spot area) is it not reasonable to assume the aircraft continued nearer the coast of Vietnam? Oil rig worker Mike McKay sighted an aircraft to the west of his position in flames for 10-15 seconds before the fire went out. What if pilots had already turned back due to an electrical fault and took a heading for Djakarta or Singapore and whilst dealing with electrical failure were suddenly confronted by fire in the cockpit? Such a fire could have melted the fuselage skin like a blow torch and evacuated the pilot's emergency oxygen in seconds. This is like a cascading failure where pilots were pre-occuppied with one failure followed by a different type of failure. Any thoughts please? |
Originally Posted by SyGunson
(Post 1609628)
Has anybody canvased the idea of what happened to Egyptair Flight 667 in 2011 had also happened to MH370 at 35,000ft?
An electrical fire (ie arcing) in the avionics bay occurred at the gate on Flight 667. This burned through an oxygen feed line beside the co-pilot's position. Such a fire could have melted the fuselage skin like a blow torch and evacuated the pilot's emergency oxygen in seconds. This is like a cascading failure where pilots were pre-occuppied with one failure followed by a different type of failure. Any thoughts please? The problem so far with *any* theory is that they all match some facts, and are totally contradicted by other facts. I suspect one of two things will eventually happen: The truth will be totally surprising and unexpected, or some of the "facts" we think we know will turn out to be dead wrong. |
Originally Posted by abelenky
(Post 1609656)
This theory doesn't readily support the plane flying on its own for several more hours.
The problem so far with *any* theory is that they all match some facts, and are totally contradicted by other facts. I suspect one of two things will eventually happen: The truth will be totally surprising and unexpected, or some of the "facts" we think we know will turn out to be dead wrong. As has been mentioned we won't know until we have an airframe,VCR and for. Until then it's all swag. |
If the aircraft had a fire like the EgyptAir 777 and killed the crew it would not fly on for hours or hours. At least I do not think the aircraft would stay together for that long. At some point when you get a whole in the nose of the aircraft with all the drag it either becomes aerodynamically unstable or begins to slowly break apart.
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Originally Posted by MEMA300
(Post 1609669)
If the aircraft had a fire like the EgyptAir 777 and killed the crew it would not fly on for hours or hours. At least I do not think the aircraft would stay together for that long. At some point when you get a whole in the nose of the aircraft with all the drag it either becomes aerodynamically unstable or begins to slowly break apart.
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