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Ftrooppilot 03-25-2014 05:05 AM

CNN just reported that a 777 flying in the "STRATOSPHERE" could glide over 200 miles after "the engines quit".

A U-2 with about a 24/1 glide ratio at best L/D speed could glide about 168 miles from 35,000 feet.

Got to add this to the "black hole" and "alien abduction" theories.

F4E Mx 03-25-2014 05:17 AM

Hopefully they have examined the aircraft maintenance records to see if the ADs have been complied with and examined some aircraft in the fleet to determine that the maintenance has been done and the parts replaced vs pencil-whipping after the fact. On the oxygen line AD note, ALPA wanted the compliance time reduced to 12 months instead of 18. United Airlines management wanted the compliance times extended to two years.

galaxy flyer 03-25-2014 07:27 AM

If a fire like Egyptair's , the fuselage, under pressurization and flight loads would have failed quite quickly. I don't see it flying for hours.

If you look at the stats for air carrier accidents durn cruise flight, suicide or terrorism is foremost. Three suicides in the last 15 years--Egypt Air, SilkAir and LAM last year in Mozambique.

GF

F4E Mx 03-25-2014 07:41 AM

If it was an oxygen fire in the cockpit the pilot on whose side it occurred would not be able to use his oxygen mask, even as a smoke protector. He would be subject to smoke inhalation, and perhaps depressurization, depending on whether or not the pressure vessel was breached.

F4E Mx 03-25-2014 08:43 AM

In thinking further one of the first things the crew would do in case of a fire in the cockpit would be to depressurize, so it wouldn't matter if the cockpit fire burned through the skin or not as far as pressurization is concerned.

LightAttack 03-25-2014 10:09 AM


Originally Posted by abelenky (Post 1609656)
This theory doesn't readily support the plane flying on its own for several more hours.

The problem so far with *any* theory is that they all match some facts, and are totally contradicted by other facts.

I suspect one of two things will eventually happen:
The truth will be totally surprising and unexpected, or some of the "facts" we think we know will turn out to be dead wrong.

Bingo. It is going to be amazing when they find it and figure this out.

CRM114 03-25-2014 10:57 AM


Originally Posted by Ftrooppilot (Post 1609682)
CNN just reported that a 777 flying in the "STRATOSPHERE" could glide over 200 miles after "the engines quit".

A U-2 with about a 24/1 glide ratio at best L/D speed could glide about 168 miles from 35,000 feet.

Got to add this to the "black hole" and "alien abduction" theories.

What can they say, they know their audience:
Opinion: America's problem -- we're too dumb - CNN.com

Rather B Fishin 03-25-2014 01:37 PM


Originally Posted by F4E Mx (Post 1609766)
If it was an oxygen fire in the cockpit the pilot on whose side it occurred would not be able to use his oxygen mask, even as a smoke protector. He would be subject to smoke inhalation, and perhaps depressurization, depending on whether or not the pressure vessel was breached.

I'm assuming like most aircraft, the 777 also has a PBE in the cockpit.

F4E Mx 03-25-2014 01:50 PM

Well, that is a good question. Does the 777 have PBE (portable breathing equipment) in the cockpit to augment the crew supplemental oxygen. The regulation I found indicated the pilots oxygen system would satisfy the requirement for the PBEs, meaning there would not be a requirement to carry both in the cockpit.

Airhoss 03-25-2014 03:05 PM


Originally Posted by F4E Mx (Post 1609987)
Well, that is a good question. Does the 777 have PBE (portable breathing equipment) in the cockpit to augment the crew supplemental oxygen. The regulation I found indicated the pilots oxygen system would satisfy the requirement for the PBEs, meaning there would not be a requirement to carry both in the cockpit.

Yes. I've never flown any airliner that doesn't have a PBE or two stored in cockpit. However a PBE is only going to buy you about 15 minutes tops.


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