I will repeat, again, my position:
There is no factual information or intelligence-wise "leads" based information, or any indications, that this was terrorist related. Because a bunch of rocket scientist self-appointed internet crash experts on APC have decided "it must be terrorism" and same group has reviewed past accidents and since "this has never happened" before, have concluded it is terrorism, does not make it so. Again, as of now (03-26) we have no, none, zero, indications of terrorism (or suicide or similar mal-intent by people occupying the cockpit). |
Originally Posted by satpak77
(Post 1610295)
I will repeat, again, my position:
There is no factual information or intelligence-wise "leads" based information, or any indications, that this was terrorist related. Because a bunch of rocket scientist self-appointed internet crash experts on APC have decided "it must be terrorism" and same group has reviewed past accidents and since "this has never happened" before, have concluded it is terrorism, does not make it so. Again, as of now (03-26) we have no, none, zero, indications of terrorism (or suicide or similar mal-intent by people occupying the cockpit). You are correct, there is no evidence of terrorism. There is also no evidence of aircraft malfunction. Nobody has come to a conclusion, they have offered their best guess to explain the several possible ways an aircraft like the 777 may go off the tracks and vanish. If there are actual intel leads, you are not going to hear them on the news or from a paid general on cnn. |
If there was an oxygen-fed fire in the cockpit that was caused by a short with the metal spring in the oxygen hose chafing with a wire bundle I can see how the transponder head and radio control heads could become disabled. It was not a case of the pilots turning off the transponder and not making radio calls, it was an instance of the wiring to those components being melted and burned. The pilots may well have put in an emergency transponder code and tried to make an emergency radio call to no avail.
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Originally Posted by SyGunson
(Post 1610095)
Please can you provide conclusive proof that an airliner will not continue to fly after structural failure? So if you were to find some examples where structural failure DID cause the loss of the aircraft would you accept that as conclusive? :rolleyes: You seem to like research. I'll start you off with China Airlines 611 and JAL 123. EasternATC nails it with respect to your ideas of psychology 101. Always and never seldom work out. Try and remember that when you write your story. |
If you did have a fire in the cockpit you would not necessarily have a structural failure. You would expect the pilots to depressurize the aircraft, descend, and head for the nearest suitable airport. The aircraft did descend, and did a 120 degree left turn in the general direction of an airport with a 12,500 foot runway.
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Originally Posted by jungle
(Post 1610314)
You are correct, there is no evidence of terrorism.
There is also no evidence of aircraft malfunction. Nobody has come to a conclusion, they have offered their best guess to explain the several possible ways an aircraft like the 777 may go off the tracks and vanish. If there are actual intel leads, you are not going to hear them on the news or from a paid general on cnn. Absent information of that, the focus should be on mechanical problems/crew physiological impairment issues/etc |
Originally Posted by satpak77
(Post 1610380)
An otherwise perfectly normal jumbo jet in the ocean is "evidence of an aircraft malfunction", at least for me. And the terrorist/suicide theory has gained a lot of fans on this thread, and in the media.
Absent information of that, the focus should be on mechanical problems/crew physiological impairment issues/etc Is it not possible to focus on all plausible explanations until they are proven to be incorrect? It appears you are doing exactly what you are complaining about.:D |
Originally Posted by SyGunson
(Post 1610281)
Were it either of the pilots with a grudge you would expect them to leave a recriminatory letter against those perceived to have wronged them.
When people create such grandiose acts it is an attention seeking move. I'm not saying this is definitely what happened to the Malaysian aircraft, but at this point we don't know enough to discount any theory. |
Originally Posted by satpak77
(Post 1610295)
I will repeat, again, my position:
There is no factual information or intelligence-wise "leads" based information, or any indications, that this was terrorist related. Because a bunch of rocket scientist self-appointed internet crash experts on APC have decided "it must be terrorism" and same group has reviewed past accidents and since "this has never happened" before, have concluded it is terrorism, does not make it so. Again, as of now (03-26) we have no, none, zero, indications of terrorism (or suicide or similar mal-intent by people occupying the cockpit). |
Originally Posted by satpak77
(Post 1610380)
An otherwise perfectly normal jumbo jet in the ocean is "evidence of an aircraft malfunction", at least for me. And the terrorist/suicide theory has gained a lot of fans on this thread, and in the media.
Absent information of that, the focus should be on mechanical problems/crew physiological impairment issues/etc |
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