Shooting at the FLL airport
01-07-2017, 05:50 PM
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Originally Posted by CoefficientX
I hold a carry permit in the state in which I reside and have for over ten years.
Be careful what you wish for. The average Joe with a carry permit has no where near the amount of training required to take out a perp in the FLL scenario. The odds that the permit holder himself would takeout other innocent people is high. It takes far more training and experience to discharge a weapon safely in a crowded area than the vast majority of permit holders possess.
Be careful what you wish for. The average Joe with a carry permit has no where near the amount of training required to take out a perp in the FLL scenario. The odds that the permit holder himself would takeout other innocent people is high. It takes far more training and experience to discharge a weapon safely in a crowded area than the vast majority of permit holders possess.
01-08-2017, 06:53 AM
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Bloodbath shows why guns should be allowed in airports, Florida lawmakers say:
Fort Lauderdale shooting comes as some lawmakers want to allow guns in airport terminals | Miami Herald
Fort Lauderdale shooting comes as some lawmakers want to allow guns in airport terminals | Miami Herald
01-08-2017, 06:55 AM
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Originally Posted by CoefficientX
Be careful what you wish for. The average Joe with a carry permit has no where near the amount of training required to take out a perp in the FLL scenario. The odds that the permit holder himself would takeout other innocent people is high. It takes far more training and experience to discharge a weapon safely in a crowded area than the vast majority of permit holders possess.
01-08-2017, 08:26 AM
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Originally Posted by NMuir
Bloodbath shows why guns should be allowed in airports, Florida lawmakers say:
Fort Lauderdale shooting comes as some lawmakers want to allow guns in airport terminals | Miami Herald
Fort Lauderdale shooting comes as some lawmakers want to allow guns in airport terminals | Miami Herald
Let's say this happens again: You have a gun and hear gunshots. So, instead of sheltering in place or leaving the scene, you start running, gun drawn, toward the action. You come around the corner, see a guy shooting and open fire. The guy you are shooting at turns to shoot at you. You both exchange shots, missing of course because even highly trained federal officers have a relatively low accuracy while firing under pressure. Then you get shot yourself. When it's all said and done, you firing into a crowded area and missing (or even hitting) has created even more casualties. Also, you shot another guy, a "good guy" who was just returning fire from the bad guy. The police show up, since they are in the terminal anyways patrolling in plain clothes and in uniform, and shoot all 3 of you because no one knows who is the good guys.
That sounds like it would have saved a lot of lives.
01-08-2017, 08:35 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
So let's talk about a hypothetical, since we are so excited to allow everyone and anyone to carry inside a terminal. We are going to ignore the fact the Joe Paranoid can walk into a concealed carry class and with almost no skill or fire arms training or background walk away with the right to carry concealed.
Let's say this happens again: You have a gun and hear gunshots. So, instead of sheltering in place or leaving the scene, you start running, gun drawn, toward the action. You come around the corner, see a guy shooting and open fire. The guy you are shooting at turns to shoot at you. You both exchange shots, missing of course because even highly trained federal officers have a relatively low accuracy while firing under pressure. Then you get shot yourself. When it's all said and done, you firing into a crowded area and missing (or even hitting) has created even more casualties. Also, you shot another guy, a "good guy" who was just returning fire from the bad guy. The police show up, since they are in the terminal anyways patrolling in plain clothes and in uniform, and shoot all 3 of you because no one knows who is the good guys.
That sounds like it would have saved a lot of lives.
Let's say this happens again: You have a gun and hear gunshots. So, instead of sheltering in place or leaving the scene, you start running, gun drawn, toward the action. You come around the corner, see a guy shooting and open fire. The guy you are shooting at turns to shoot at you. You both exchange shots, missing of course because even highly trained federal officers have a relatively low accuracy while firing under pressure. Then you get shot yourself. When it's all said and done, you firing into a crowded area and missing (or even hitting) has created even more casualties. Also, you shot another guy, a "good guy" who was just returning fire from the bad guy. The police show up, since they are in the terminal anyways patrolling in plain clothes and in uniform, and shoot all 3 of you because no one knows who is the good guys.
That sounds like it would have saved a lot of lives.
You nailed it.
Funny, how I have never met a concealed carrier that doesn't have the confidence to act appropriately in any circumstances. They all see themselves as Clint Eastwood.
01-08-2017, 10:24 AM
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Ahh the infamous good guy with a gun in an active shooter scenario 
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCI4bUk4vuM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCI4bUk4vuM
01-08-2017, 11:19 AM
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Originally Posted by CBreezy
We are going to ignore the fact the Joe Paranoid can walk into a concealed carry class and with almost no skill or fire arms training or background walk away with the right to carry concealed.
Originally Posted by CBreezy
Let's say this happens again: You have a gun and hear gunshots. So, instead of sheltering in place or leaving the scene, you start running, gun drawn, toward the action. You come around the corner, see a guy shooting and open fire. The guy you are shooting at turns to shoot at you. You both exchange shots, missing of course because even highly trained federal officers have a relatively low accuracy while firing under pressure. Then you get shot yourself. When it's all said and done, you firing into a crowded area and missing (or even hitting) has created even more casualties. Also, you shot another guy, a "good guy" who was just returning fire from the bad guy. The police show up, since they are in the terminal anyways patrolling in plain clothes and in uniform, and shoot all 3 of you because no one knows who is the good guys.
01-08-2017, 11:20 AM
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Originally Posted by ShyGuy
Ahh the infamous good guy with a gun in an active shooter scenario
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCI4bUk4vuM
www.youtube.com/watch?v=MCI4bUk4vuM
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