2018 new TA - Page 16 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

#151

RAHkid94 , 05-19-2018 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by pitchtrim

If you work here then you should know they aren't properly staffed.

Come on, we're only like 25 captains short for tomorrow.

#152

Pilotdude3407 , 05-19-2018 04:24 PM

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Originally Posted by pitchtrim

If you work here then you should know they aren't properly staffed.

My point is we don’t control their staffing. We can’t. Staffing is their problem. They have the ability to throw additional money towards new hires in terms of rates and they aren’t even though they are under water. The same goes for negotiations. Until they want to throw a bunch of money at it, it is what it is.

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#153

squib , 05-19-2018 06:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407

AWAC management has the ability to raise first year pay RIGHT NOW, TODAY to $40/hr per LOA 37. The restriction is they cannot go backwards once they raise it. Guess they aren’t hurting that bad.

Apparently you, Ken, are oblivious of day to day operations. Maybe try flying the line. Enjoy your flight pay loss like the rest of the guys who signed off on this hoping for another 2 years of flight pay loss.

#154

Grumbletrousers , 05-20-2018 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tonsterboy5

What am I missing that has everyone a “no” vote? This TA along with our current contract have us getting paid more than just about every other regional with mostly better rules if you can live in base.(commuting with JM, and extensions sucks) We make more than the AA wholly owneds, Skywest, tsa, go jet, express jet, silver, seaborn, Penn air, commut air, and Mesa.

Yes we all want more $$ but with the exception of endeavor no one makes more than us flying 50 seaters (not including our new hire bonus) in the lower 48. I simply want my time and to be gone. Yea bonus’ suck compared to higher wage, but if anything they incentivize getting time and getting out after 3 years if possible. Which is very likely with all the retirements approaching.

Because we took huge concessions when the company hit hard times. Now when the company is doing well they won’t even give us 2%.

The company can either drastically improve our QOL or give us Endevour rates otherwise it’s a no from me.

#155

ZenoAir , 05-20-2018 04:02 AM

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I was saying BF needs to get back to line operations so he can get out of the ATW box. This f.....g place is imploding and I get tired when BOB continues with his lies!

#156

Flubber , 05-21-2018 03:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Pilotdude3407

It will restart negotiations. All sections are back open for bargaining. With that being said, with a second failed TA, you will probably be replacing your leadership and negotiating committee, plus all the mec that either get recalled or resign. So with all the work that goes into that and getting brought up to speed plus looking at how long it took from TA 2015, I can’t imagine we will be back at the table anytime soon.

I'm sure that if this happens (clean house in the MEC), there are more than enough guys out there that are not only willing to step up, but they know how to get the job done so we'll have a new TA by the end of the year. EDV + 5% pay, DAL per diem, no JMs, and all the other good stuff. Get that and I'll consider sticking around this place.

#157

StrykerB21 , 05-23-2018 01:02 PM

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Anyone attending the webinar?

#158

Day4mx , 05-23-2018 07:07 PM

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Originally Posted by StrykerB21

Anyone attending the webinar?

No. If i wanted to f--- myself, i much prefer chaturbate.

#159

fenix1 , 05-23-2018 10:00 PM

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Future of Air Wisky? Only 50 seaters?

Is this TA a sign that ownership plans to cash in - one way or another - within 2 years? (i.e., trying to keep everyone just happy enough for smoke to keep coming off the tires for one more day for as long as they can?)

Is the removal of pay rates for equipment with capacity of more than 50 pax noteworthy? Seems to contribute to the cash-in theory on one hand (doesn't AW almost HAVE to upgrade soon to remain viable??), but - on the other hand - if this agreement is written with just a 24 month term length in mind then I may reading into this unnecessarily.

#160

StrykerB21 , 05-24-2018 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by fenix1

Its a sign the owners are happy with the status quo. Thats all, read nothing more into it than that.