Yea same here. Agree with some of what Darant said but not all. Regional pilots wages have been dictated by the market. There were a ton of 200 hour pilots willing to do the job for poverty wages. Those days are gone. Now all the regionals are desperate for pilots, so it's about damn time to start demanding wages respective to the profession. Period. If the Mesa's of the world can't pay pilots respectively, let them fizzle away. They have no business in the airlines if that's the case. And I'm not just singling out Mesa...this goes for all regionals. Hope you guys demand the industry average at the very least. It's time start making all these regionals pay up or go away.

Lawls... Okay can we get back on a non throat-slashing topic please? Does anyone know if the roster is correct for July? I see less than 100 FOs on the active list and we are supposed to reveice the last airplane at the end of next month. It doesn't seem the math adds up... Short staffed on FOs or delayed delivery?

Short on FOs....hence the hold backs. They extended the hiring out until the fall and are taking a break on upgrades (until August) to run FO-only classes to beef things up a little.

How many more FOs do we need approx? Hopefully they run 20-30 more upgrades on the 175 later in summer.

LOL we said we'll hold out for industry average and we're the devil that's comdeming American unions. **** off.

I think there around 130 on the property including the June class. I figure we need around 150, but there are several FOs that have been awarded CA and have been held back. As both EJET and CRJ upgrades continue, that number will only go up, requiring backfill at some point. So my guess would be a minimum of 20 if they keep the hold backs, 30+ if they start releasing them any time in the next 3 months.

Go back and read my post again. I said industry average. It would be one thing to demand outrageous, unprecedented pay rates at the regional level, or to demand firm raises when the whole industry is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy. But neither of those is going on right now. Mainline is posting healthy profits and other regionals have figured out how to pay better than Mesa and still successfully do business.

I'm not anti-union and I don't want the company to fail, but at the same time this is a free market economy. If we price ourselves out of existence by voting in industry average pay rates, then that speaks volumes of the business model here at MAG. And IMO if that puts the company under then they shouldn't be doing business. This is basic economics at work.

There's nothing unprofessional about demanding a respectable wage with the current labor and economical situations. In fact that would be the professional thing to do if you value skill and competency.

It's easy to say to not accept the pay. It's entirely a different matter when your there already and established. Only a fool would cause the demise of his current job without another job lined up.
With that said, a lateral move to Envoy is starting to look like a really good idea. That guaranteed flow is the only way that many of us will get to a legacy. Also, health insurance for my entire family at a tiny fraction of the cost of what Mesa charges is a game changer for those with families. If you want change, well...

That'd be pretty ironic if Mesa guys started jumping ship to envoy. Plenty of former eagle guys on our seniority list who played the lateral move game already, hoping this is their last one. I don't see that happening though.

I can no longer take you seriously. Why would anyone want to jump ship to an operation that is SHRINKING. All for a "guaranteed flow" of at least a 20 year wait. And that's if the company is still even around at that point.