You're in for a rude awakening when or if you get through real world training. Little advice.....park the
"I know more than you" attitude. Otherwise, you'll get your a** handed to you on the way out the door.

Try doing a search before posting, third time a thread has been made about this same topic... Look two or three threads below this one, I posted the exact details released by the FAA.

Nothing set in stone yet just possible reductions. Won't solve the long-term hiring issue, just may offer a year or two reprieve as the current CFI pool moves on to regionals faster. Certainly a step in the wrong direction, but I wouldn't in any way call this a MAJOR change.

Now there is a MAJOR change being discussed, and if you read the thread I posted there are more details on it. It would reduce the hourly requirement for everyone with an aviation degree or from military to 500. Much more serious change that would have a greater negative effect on the industry and pay rates.

That is extremely troubling..god forbid the day the automation doesn’t work as published and other external factors are going on that necessitate basic flying skills..

As someone who went to a Pt61 and then later on flew with Pt141 guys I would actually have to agree with him. They spend 4 years on this stuff where lots of the Pt61 guys may spend less than a year on everything. The Pt 141 guys have a much deeper breadth of knowledge.

But there is no need to be cocky about it.

Bingo.... it almost doesn't make sense to get 135 experience prior to going to 121 world. And that is ashame. They need to lower the 135 requirements if they are going to keep the 1500 hour rule.

That's counterproductive though - Most 135 flying is much more demanding than 121. What you really DO NOT want is pilots flying single pilot 135 IFR with less experience than what's required now.

Ding ding ding. You guys are advocating to put a 250 hour wonder in single-pilot IMC night icing thunderstorm windshear engine-failure crud when you could be putting them with a mentor in a reliable aircraft in a much more controlled environment. Which way is more likely to result in fatalities? I'm not ignoring the fact that the airliner has a lot more souls on board than the cargo Caravan. But our goal should be to avoid all accidents rather than culling out the weak in the 135 environment.

As to the experience reduction: there are strong 500 hour pilots and there are weak 5000 hour pilots. The hours don't correlate to skill. They only roughly correlate to how many different scenarios and how mature a pilot's decision-making skills may be. This is primarily derived from aptitude and from the quality of training received. All self-interest aside, if the outcome really is to lower the total time requirement for an ATP it also needs to include real changes to the training requirements. The ATP-CTP is a step forward, but may not be enough to cover the lack of real-world experience in a low-time pilot's background. There will need to be a requirement for increased hours in initial 121 training to make up the deficiency.

Like not realizing the 777 auto-throttles are disengaged on approach and then stalling short of the runway? Maybe an-initio would fix that?

I can tell you the pass rate between the two groups in the 121 world is indistinguishable. The difference mainly being that you can tell who went to the 141 school bc they think they're better for it. They aren't. Even though they'll tell you they "basically have a type rating in the CRJ200". lololol

The valuable stuff comes from what you do after you get your certificates while building time

Can you elaborate?