MAJOR news about 1500 hour rule change
#21
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Not to be that guy, but the level of training up here is 10X better than my friends training at the local FBO. I have much larger knowledge of flying along with aviation than my buddies with the same amount of hours as I do. Not knocking 61 training because we all know it's a better way to save a ton of money, but there is a major difference in training and the education process
"I know more than you" attitude. Otherwise, you'll get your a** handed to you on the way out the door.
#22
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Try doing a search before posting, third time a thread has been made about this same topic... Look two or three threads below this one, I posted the exact details released by the FAA.
Nothing set in stone yet just possible reductions. Won't solve the long-term hiring issue, just may offer a year or two reprieve as the current CFI pool moves on to regionals faster. Certainly a step in the wrong direction, but I wouldn't in any way call this a MAJOR change.
Now there is a MAJOR change being discussed, and if you read the thread I posted there are more details on it. It would reduce the hourly requirement for everyone with an aviation degree or from military to 500. Much more serious change that would have a greater negative effect on the industry and pay rates.
Nothing set in stone yet just possible reductions. Won't solve the long-term hiring issue, just may offer a year or two reprieve as the current CFI pool moves on to regionals faster. Certainly a step in the wrong direction, but I wouldn't in any way call this a MAJOR change.
Now there is a MAJOR change being discussed, and if you read the thread I posted there are more details on it. It would reduce the hourly requirement for everyone with an aviation degree or from military to 500. Much more serious change that would have a greater negative effect on the industry and pay rates.
#23
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That is extremely troubling..god forbid the day the automation doesn’t work as published and other external factors are going on that necessitate basic flying skills..
#24
Well, you are that guy. When you get to a regional, I hope you let go of this mentality and fast. You don't know how to fly a 172 any better than someone from the local airport. Not that that's saying literally. anything. at. all.
The guys who have trouble at the 121 level have attitude issues. Seems like you're on your way there
The guys who have trouble at the 121 level have attitude issues. Seems like you're on your way there
But there is no need to be cocky about it.
#25
I would much rather lower the requirements for those that went and flew 135, in a real airplane, in a variety of airspaces and conditions. CFI's typically have very little experience in busy airspace (and different areas of the country), little experience in bad weather, and fly very simple airplanes.
#26
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That's counterproductive though - Most 135 flying is much more demanding than 121. What you really DO NOT want is pilots flying single pilot 135 IFR with less experience than what's required now.
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As to the experience reduction: there are strong 500 hour pilots and there are weak 5000 hour pilots. The hours don't correlate to skill. They only roughly correlate to how many different scenarios and how mature a pilot's decision-making skills may be. This is primarily derived from aptitude and from the quality of training received. All self-interest aside, if the outcome really is to lower the total time requirement for an ATP it also needs to include real changes to the training requirements. The ATP-CTP is a step forward, but may not be enough to cover the lack of real-world experience in a low-time pilot's background. There will need to be a requirement for increased hours in initial 121 training to make up the deficiency.
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Like not realizing the 777 auto-throttles are disengaged on approach and then stalling short of the runway? Maybe an-initio would fix that?
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As someone who went to a Pt61 and then later on flew with Pt141 guys I would actually have to agree with him. They spend 4 years on this stuff where lots of the Pt61 guys may spend less than a year on everything. The Pt 141 guys have a much deeper breadth of knowledge.
But there is no need to be cocky about it.
But there is no need to be cocky about it.
The valuable stuff comes from what you do after you get your certificates while building time
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