Originally Posted by VelvetThunder

$181/hr

$127.5/hr wet for the plane, $53.5/hr for the instructor.



Punctuation goes inside the quotes bud.

Originally Posted by MantisToboggan

He could be British? but welcome to the forums, beautiful first post.

Originally Posted by VelvetThunder

$181/hr

$127.5/hr wet for the plane, $53.5/hr for the instructor

Originally Posted by jdebrey

I just got done with a lecture at University of North Dakota and decided to ask the professor a question about this new proposal. He was the Master Executive Council Chairman at American eagle along with being the Department Chair in the aviation department up at UND, Very respected guy within the aviation industry.

He has been in communication with people in Washington D.C and he told me that probably within 6-12 month there will be at-least a 250 hour reduction to the hours. This would mean that for us at UND we will go down to 750 hours.

He said he along with the lawmakers are about 80% sure it will be passed. He seemed very confident as well.

He went on to say the UND will be reducing students accepted next year due to the major shortage of CFI's available. Things are gonna get a little messy up here. He said the average student who will get accepted into the program will have to have at-least a 22 ACT along with 3.0GPA which is a big step up from before. The industry is about to have a massive issue with staffing CFI's..... Also mentioned even if UND offered 50K to flight instructors why would they stay when they can clear that easily at a regional and later on major? sh*t is gonna hit the fan in my opinion


Also he mentioned legacy carriers have been approaching UND about putting together a pathway program direct to the major airline. He said the discussion was started roughly at the start of this school year. He said even though this is just the beginning of the talks that he would not be surprised if we saw a pathway program setup within the next 1-4 years.


Let me know what you guys think.

-John

Originally Posted by jdebrey

I just got done with a lecture at University of North Dakota and decided to ask the professor a question about this new proposal. He was the Master Executive Council Chairman at American eagle along with being the Department Chair in the aviation department up at UND, Very respected guy within the aviation industry.

He has been in communication with people in Washington D.C and he told me that probably within 6-12 month there will be at-least a 250 hour reduction to the hours. This would mean that for us at UND we will go down to 750 hours.

He said he along with the lawmakers are about 80% sure it will be passed. He seemed very confident as well.

He went on to say the UND will be reducing students accepted next year due to the major shortage of CFI's available. Things are gonna get a little messy up here. He said the average student who will get accepted into the program will have to have at-least a 22 ACT along with 3.0GPA which is a big step up from before. The industry is about to have a massive issue with staffing CFI's..... Also mentioned even if UND offered 50K to flight instructors why would they stay when they can clear that easily at a regional and later on major? sh*t is gonna hit the fan in my opinion


Also he mentioned legacy carriers have been approaching UND about putting together a pathway program direct to the major airline. He said the discussion was started roughly at the start of this school year. He said even though this is just the beginning of the talks that he would not be surprised if we saw a pathway program setup within the next 1-4 years.


Let me know what you guys think.

-John

Originally Posted by VelvetThunder

Thanks, if folks like you were few and far between maybe I would have joined sooner.

Originally Posted by jdebrey

Just to clarify my flight training costs is around $56,000. UND is extremely cheap, with my financial aid I only paid $5,000 in tuition (per semester) including room & board. Thats pretty damn good. total I'll come out getting my training and a 4 year degree roughly at $75,000. So not quiet hundreds of thousands of dollars, but I still get your point

Originally Posted by gtflyer

I've heard a regional chief pilot at Delta talk about the pathway program. Delta will recruit at the major aviation universities (e.g. ERAU, UND, WMU, MTSU, AU, etc.) and offer them a job on the spot. After they graduate they will work as a CFI until they get the hours need for an ATP and then work at Endeavor until they're able to flow into Delta. Not sure on the time line for everything but it would seem that you can go from graduation to Delta in only about 3-4 years.

Originally Posted by SilentLurker

Financial Aid is not an "aid" it's a lower rate "LOAN"....

NOTHING IS EVER FREE. You will pay back "Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars" at the end of the day with compound interest unless u decided food, rent, transportation isn't important when u get out of college and send $500+ a month to Sally Mae or FedLoan or whomever.... for your "financial aid".

Sounds nice doesn't it? Repeat after me

"Financial Debt" is what it should be called

Originally Posted by SilentLurker

Financial Aid is not an "aid" it's a lower rate "LOAN"....

NOTHING IS EVER FREE. You will pay back "Hundreds of Thousands of Dollars" at the end of the day with compound interest unless u decided food, rent, transportation isn't important when u get out of college and send $500+ a month to Sally Mae or FedLoan or whomever.... for your "financial aid".

Sounds nice doesn't it? Repeat after me

"Financial Debt" is what it should be called