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Originally Posted by vroll1800
Really?? A glance at airline profiles shows Omni top rate on B767 (AND B777) to be 262/hr. AA shows 284/hr for B767, 332/hr for B777. I do see that Omni has a $25/hr advantage first year pay over AA, but then AA has a 20-25/hr rate advantage on B767 over Omni for the 2nd - 4th year FO. (Although narrow body for legacy new hires is the norm, some legacy new hires have snagged a B767 slot from the start, or within a few years.
yes, really. Pull the CBA’s and compare top step 12 year 767 CA pay. Now a caveat could be that AA is the lowest paying legacy and is still operating under a bankruptcy contract. I’d fully expect them to make significant gains at their next negotiation, how ever many years that takes to happen. It is possible I misread it though, so I will get fresh CBA copies.
Rigs wouldn’t really effect us much, nobody ever flys enough to where rigs would beat guarantee. Check airmen, and some special programs guys could benefit from rigs. Having 12 reserve days and flying 4 legs on 4 other days all month isn’t really going to benefit from a rig. RSV days are all just guarantee.
But, in all fairness, even when on a 6 day layover, it is part of our 16 days and we are getting guarantee. It’s a rig of sorts by end result.
That said, it’s easy to pick up extra pay by things as simple as accepting a coach seat instead of business or first.
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Originally Posted by vroll1800
I get that you're elated to be at Omni now, and rightfully so. Yet you also demonstrate an ignorance of (or willingness to blow off) the effect that good rigs, minimum pay per day/duty period can have on ones compensation. At some airlines, working 16 days would net you 80 hours, or 25% more hours than Omni. I also get that home basing can be a "Golden" trump card. Yet to place ACMI carrier as a viable career alternative in the same breath as any of the "Top 6" approaches the height of folly. Add up the greater credit hours, superior retirement, vacation, trip trade/add/drop flexibility, and the columns just don't add up for many under the age of 50. Lastly, did your envious AA friend hit you up for a LOR to Omni ?
And I’ll say again.... everybody’s situation and needs are different. There is absolutely nothing wrong with somebody finishing their career at a place like Kalitta or Omni if it works for them. If somebody else is under 50ish they should absolutely look at the legacy job. The short term pain would be worth the long term gain. Again, to keep it in context, we’re talking 50+ year old Kalitta/Omni CA’s at or near top step. If you’re a first, second, third year FO under about 57-58, you’re better off at the legacy if you can deal with commuting and crashpads for a while.
A few of these ACMI’s have become decent jobs, that does not mean there aren’t better ones. Beauty is in the eye of the beholder.