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11-26-2018, 08:58 AM

#211

gumpscheck

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Originally Posted by filejw

And that is the Amazon model for many other parts of their business. Contrators for lots more than aviation . Good luck trying to get them to change .

Amazon could care less until their model fails. But then again, Amazon is operating with minimal investment (infrastructure or otherwise) so they have little to lose. To me this is a new version of operating from a mobile trailer. Remember Airborne?

12-29-2018, 06:00 AM

#212

ACMItrash

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And reason 101

50% new hire wash out rate at ABX

12-29-2018, 06:13 AM

#213

goinaround

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Originally Posted by ACMItrash

And reason 101

50% new hire wash out rate at ABX

Less indicative of the quality of training at ABX as it is the critical thinking skills of those choosing to accept a position at ABX at this point.

12-29-2018, 06:56 AM

#214

EndOfTimes

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Originally Posted by ACMItrash

And reason 101

50% new hire wash out rate at ABX

You’re not helping your cause by making wild and unsubstantiated claims like this. You lose credibility every you post this type of garbage. Again, things are horrible enough at ABX without embellishments.

12-29-2018, 07:45 AM

#215

motorclutch

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Maybe the washout rate is due to the inferior candidates ABX attracts? I’ve flown with some....it’s not the same as a few years ago. David Soapy has convinced the BOD and Hete that he’s getting only the best.

12-29-2018, 07:48 AM

#216

ACMItrash

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Originally Posted by motorclutch

You think the uppers would fact check soapy! Fact of the matter is there is a high wash out rate. You can't hide behind facts!

12-29-2018, 07:49 AM

#217

ACMItrash

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Quote:

Originally Posted by EndOfTimes

Should we publish the list to probe the facts?

12-29-2018, 08:40 AM

#218

EndOfTimes

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ACMItrash

Should we publish the list to probe the facts?

Sure. Give me your inflated, artificial numbers over a realistic sample. Let’s say for the last 6 months. How many showed up for class, and how many of those had training failures? It won’t be 50 percent. “Washout rates” don’t include those who left for greener pastures, or went back to their old job because they realized coming to ABX was a bad idea once they felt the sinking ship. ABX standards have been lowered considerably, it’s hard to fail. As Bubba says, you just have to be able to “fog a mirror.” Stop exaggerating things. The truth is bad enough.

12-29-2018, 09:01 AM

#219

Riverside

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Originally Posted by ACMItrash

Should we publish the list to probe the facts?

You always spew false information. Why anyone would believe you is beyond me.

12-29-2018, 10:46 AM

#220

nitefr8dog

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Quote:

Originally Posted by ACMItrash

And reason 101

50% new hire wash out rate at ABX

He did not mention the 50% is in a class of 2...as usual he embellishes the facts. There are always 1 or 2 who struggle. After 20 yrs training pilots to fly the 767 ABX training is as good as it gets. But give all the information or as usual you sound like an idiot. 50% in a class of 20...now that would be of interest.

Last edited by nitefr8dog; 12-29-2018 at 11:09 AM.