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#131

waldo135 , 02-11-2018 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by notEnuf

Inertia mostly. I have adapted to our current system. These over max pickups are how common? I did it once when I swapped a 2 day for a 4 day but it gave me 2 days off I needed. I probably could have dropped and then hoped for something to come available but I put a swap in to be sure I didn’t lose pay.

Again, I don’t think over max pickups are not common enough to address. VBs on the other hand are new and are easily put down. The data on VBs will come regardless of my objections. My fear is it will morph over time into something nobody wants or intended.

You need to look at NYC 320A as just one example. Lots of guys doing all they can to max straight time pay.

#132

Hank Kingsley , 02-11-2018 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by crewdawg

I hadn't really heard of people doing this until I came to the WB. Now, I regularly hear other pilots talking about picking up to 100+ hours every month. I've even had a few guys tell me that they "don't really need vacation, because they get to much time off," so they use vacation months to get up over 110+ hours, with pickups and carryout trips... Even got an odd stare when I said I use those months to have lots of time off. Lol.

I'm all for people using the contract to their advantage, but I think a cap would be good for the whole group.

Who said Ladies of the Night were the oldest profession? Delta pilots beat them hands down.

#133

crewdawg , 02-12-2018 12:09 AM

Super Moderator

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Originally Posted by waldo135

There’s no uproar over max pickup because so many CAs try to hit 90-100 hours of credit per month. Lots of guys want to yell about protecting jobs till it affects their paycheck.

Shack 1! But not just CAs.

#134

TED74 , 02-12-2018 03:27 AM

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Originally Posted by waldo135

There’s no uproar over max pickup because so many CAs try to hit 90-100 hours of credit per month. Lots of guys want to yell about protecting jobs till it affects their paycheck.

~15 hours/month at 330 rate, plus PS, plus DC, plus per diem, plus international override...maybe $85k/yr? Not saying it's right, but I can understand where a guy trying to catch back up on retirement might be banking on 90-100 month.

#135

waldo135 , 02-12-2018 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by TED74

Not casting judgement, just can’t have it both ways.

#136

BobZ , 02-12-2018 08:22 AM

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Originally Posted by waldo135

Not casting judgement, just can’t have it both ways.

What? We are airline pilots dammit! I dont care if the breakfast is complimentary....i want my crew discount!

#137

acl65pilot , 02-12-2018 09:10 AM

Happy to be here

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Originally Posted by 80ktsClamp

I agree. It's too much of a can of worms down the road (think future contract negotiations) to not just kill it now.

Now you know why the first leg can't be an international crossing.

The limits that were put on this were put there for a reason. It works well in the middle of the country where there is a limited increase in credit and most rotations would be costal turns or two-days.

What also hampers Delta using VB's as designed is how network utilizes their jets. The bump in credit they outlined for BOS is because there is a still a large mix of 737's and 320's doing the flying. The decide to go one way or the other on their gauge, the issue goes away.

#138

80ktsClamp , 02-12-2018 11:06 AM

Da Hudge

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

Now I know?? That limitation in there is why I was able to vote yes on TA2015-2, otherwise we would have needed to kill that one, too.

#139

iaflyer , 02-12-2018 11:57 AM

seeing the large hubs...

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Originally Posted by acl65pilot

What also hampers Delta using VB's as designed is how network utilizes their jets. The bump in credit they outlined for BOS is because there is a still a large mix of 737's and 320's doing the flying. The decide to go one way or the other on their gauge, the issue goes away.

But isn't that what Network says is making them so much money? Being able to adjust the aircraft size for the day of the week and time of day?