Remember these names: Dave Soaper, Patrick Flugelman, and VP Maloney. All came from loser airlines and their lack of talent truly shows! If you take a job at ABX you are dumber than a box of hammer!

Well, I think that Maloney is perhaps the only one that does anything. The other two have probably never made it to CVG, have no idea where building 6 is (or what) and probably would drive to Lunken. Thats in Cincy too, right? Maloney does a good job of doing face time with his employees. He goes to the hub at 3 am sometimes. Pat works from home and Dave shows up at 10am 2 days a week.


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As it was told too me Soapy told so many lies and threats he doesn't have anymore so he just dosent speak. His behavior is obviously what atsg wants because they surely know by now with his lack of progress and no respect from any Department.

What does Soaper actually do?

It’s ironic when Soapy first came he stated he would put ATI out of business. I explained to him that Joe Hete owns the whipsaw, not him. In jest I said, “you will do what Joe lets you do”. He didn’t like that. Lol

ABX Air is now in the enviable market position of having an experienced, proud, exceptionally-competent group of pilots who have extra time and availability (although that is being taken up to some extent with additional aircraft-hours for Amazon), available time on existing 767 aircraft, and a platform that can scale up pretty-quickly if the labor issues are ever settled. Lower tier operators like Northern and (ugh) 21Air can't touch this. Despite the toxic work environment, ABX pilots are doing the actual job with a great deal of competence. There's an opportunity there to the extent that a future customer wants high-reliability lift quickly. I understand that it would have to be customer-driven given the success rate of the current ABX sales force, but it should be something that is well-known in the business. There has been talk about major online retailers sniffing around private air networks on a much-more-limited scale than Amazon, and to the extent that they want to move quickly, ABX has a leg up.

So the ATI people are salivating at the possibility of taking food off the plates of Atlas pilots? We've already seen what you guys did with ABX. Even if the rumors are true, I'd keep quiet and not broadcast it on a public forum. It doesn't make you look cool, even if fitting.

I am not sure if ATI folks care about looking cool...its all about whatever is good for me. They also don't care about crossing picket lines either. Hell...its in their contract they will not honor them!

You mean broadcast what everyone already knows? I don’t need to look cool. I’m just reiterating.

But guess what? It was a lie. No one knows what anyone is getting. All I know is people still seem to be showing up to class at ABX despite what is available to them on the internet or by calling a friend. Based on recent history, ATI will get them. You will be going from 300 to 400 pilots by the end of the year. Are you just hiring to do airport reserve with us? [emoji38]

Just don’t come around 5 years from now looking for reparations or apologies. Definitely no one will know what you’re talking about.


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I doubt I will be... Do I know you from Mesa?