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Old 11-01-2019, 03:12 AM
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Fact is that ati screwed abx. If ati had some balls then it would have worked out. Fact!
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Old 11-01-2019, 06:17 AM
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Originally Posted by AAfng View Post
Fact is that ati screwed abx. If ati had some balls then it would have worked out. Fact!
No. First there is no evidence that had ATI participated “it” would have worked out. That’s just wild guessing.
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Old 11-01-2019, 07:30 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverHome View Post
No. First there is no evidence that had ATI participated “it” would have worked out. That’s just wild guessing.
Don't be so naive.....Hete just threw the bait out and waited to see who who bite. Take a pay raise from poverty wages without decent work rules, retirement, scheduling, disability...we will give you planes. Until I take them back that is...until the next group gets suckered. Look around Astar was the favorite with DHL, then ABX, then Atlas, now Kalita. There is a reason when a new company starts flying a different city every other carrier was there before. Amazon will be no different..ABX starts a city...Atlas would get it..now ATI. If you are foolish enough to think you are the last...good luck.

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Old 11-01-2019, 09:54 AM
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Originally Posted by b707guy View Post
Pretty astounding that affiliate A staunchly holds their ground on being able to claim the dubious high ground as the "cheapest labor they have with the highest on time dispatch rate", yet, somehow, affiliate B is the one who manages to enjoy their low hanging pants more.
At affiliate “A” a 12 year captain take-home annual base pay is $178,385

At affiliate “B” an 8 year captain take-home annual base pay is $181,740.

From my point of view, that’s more money four years earlier. And BTW, affiliate’s “B” pay scale keeps going every year until year 12. Plus at affiliate “A” the pilots commute to work on their last day off (before a block of work days) on their own “dime.” Affiliate A pilots commute back home on their first day off, again on their own dime. At affiliate “B” the pilots commute to work and back home on work days, at the company expense. Plus as part of the Home Basing provisions, pilots at affiliate “B” are on per diem and provided hotel rooms everywhere, including at the Hub. At affiliate “A” the pilots are crew based at the Hub. Meaning they are on their own for room & board. These are just a few examples.

Now tell me how affiliate “A” is not cheaper to operate than affiliate “B.”
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Old 11-01-2019, 10:18 AM
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Ati could have backed up the abx pilots during the strike but choose not to. Whipsaw forever at that ramp
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Old 11-01-2019, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by AAfng View Post
Ati could have backed up the abx pilots during the strike but choose not to. Whipsaw forever at that ramp
Well, did the ABX pilot group give adequate notice to the ATI group?

Of course, not that I have the right answer, but I wonder how well Teamsters and ALPA would have been able to work together especially given that Teamsters didn’t follow all proper channels before the strike.

FWIW I do understand that the ABX pilot group has/ had some very legit gripes. However they did no go about it in the right way.
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Old 11-01-2019, 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by goinaround View Post
Might take a few months of effort....
I've been working on it for several years now. It really isn't as easy as people like to think it is if you have standards or an interest in not moving backward.
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Old 11-01-2019, 11:28 AM
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Originally Posted by NeverHome View Post
Well, did the ABX pilot group give adequate notice to the ATI group?
There was a reason the ATI group wasn't notified, namely, as it was told to me, their tendency toward backstabbing and treachery.
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Old 11-01-2019, 11:41 AM
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There was a reason the ATI group wasn't notified, namely, as it was told to me, their tendency toward backstabbing and treachery.
I am glad that it is now on record from an ABX pilot that the ATI pilot group was not notified.
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Old 11-01-2019, 11:53 AM
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Originally Posted by airbus300 View Post
I am glad that it is now on record from an ABX pilot that the ATI pilot group was not notified.
Because there is no more authoritative source than J Random Dude spouting third hand information in an APC forum.
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