Spirit May 2019 hiring - Page 23 - Airline Pilot Central Forums

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SeriousShirley , 08-11-2019 06:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SpiritFailure

I got TBNT. While everyone was qualified I was very shocked by the low experience levels. I don't know if this is a Spirit strategy or if this is representative of who they have applying so I'd encourage all low timers to put their app in.

Sorry to hear; better luck with the next attempt.
If you don’t mind me asking, when did you interview? Aug 7?

#222

Excargodog , 08-11-2019 07:04 PM

Perennial Reserve

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Originally Posted by AllOva736

I agree that first year pay is rough but would you say the same things in regards to first year pay about Hawaiian or UPS , both Lower than Spirit?

Abso-friggin-lutely. They are similarly disgraceful. And the problem is the union and it’s members, not management. They have demonstrated the ability to extract decent money from management in those contracts. And at the same time they have demonstrated they really don’t give a $h|t about their own new hires.

#223

galleycafe , 08-11-2019 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by FNGFO

No. They’re not.

Whaaaaa??? Guess all you losers gotta work for SpurtWhangs then!

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#224

BobbyLeeSwagger , 08-11-2019 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by AllOva736

I agree that first year pay is rough but would you say the same things in regards to first year pay about Hawaiian or UPS , both Lower than Spirit? I imagine more people here are sympathetic to our new hire pay issues than other places.

Hawaiian's is criminally low lol.. Ups, yeah, same story.. $10 less than spirit 1st yr pay, but $70 more than spirit second year pay.. Yeah I don't expect sympathy at all.. I know anyone over 35 civilian has probably seen $19 first yr so... Yeah.. I get it. I can make the life adjustment if I have to.. I just got a little defensive when it was insinuated that its a debt/money mgmt issue. You can be debt free all you want.. $57 an hour is gonna be tough to support a family on in California

#225

BobbyLeeSwagger , 08-11-2019 07:30 PM

Moderator

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Hahaha you always say it better than me homie!

#226

Excargodog , 08-11-2019 07:46 PM

Perennial Reserve

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Originally Posted by BobbyLeeSwagger

Hahaha you always say it better than me homie!

Well, with guys here with attitudes like this:

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Originally Posted by skigambia

Dropped the ball? Far from. You don't waste negotiating capital on people who aren't on property. If the pay is preventing the company from getting quality candidates they will become very eager to go back to the negotiating table. In exchange for higher first year pay, the association will seek improvements in the contract that will help pilots who are on property and paying dues.

It’s obvious some of these people don’t give the northerly end of a southbound rat about their fellow pilots. He’s not only NOT looking after the most underpaid people in the pilot group, he wants to hold ALLOWING MANAGEMENT TO RAISE NEWBIE pay hostage to higher pay for himself.

That’s raising FUPME to a new level.

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BeechedJet , 08-11-2019 08:19 PM

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I never quite understood from the old old contract to the old the first year pay went from $40 an hour to $38.50. That was always a head scratcher. That being said I would have killed for $57 when I was at $38.50.

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#228

flyingpuma1 , 08-11-2019 09:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Qotsaautopilot

because it’s the only place they could get on and it’s better than a regional

certainly doesn’t get 60 a month of the best.

Management loves the “its better than my regional” philosophy. It’s what got us our stellar (sarcastic) new contract where on reserve we lost all qol. The more people they hire with this philosophy the more the bar is lowered every time come contract negotiations. I also agree that we will start struggling to find new hires again, unless other airlines stop hiring completely.

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#229

skigambia , 08-12-2019 03:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Well, with guys here with attitudes like this:

It’s obvious some of these people don’t give the northerly end of a southbound rat about their fellow pilots. He’s not only NOT looking after the most underpaid people in the pilot group, he wants to hold ALLOWING MANAGEMENT TO RAISE NEWBIE pay hostage to higher pay for himself.

That’s raising FUPME to a new level.

I'm not saying it's right. I'm not saying it's wrong. I'm simply saying, this is the reality.
They didn't drop the ball, they got the largest percentage raise in ALPA history, including a significant first year pay bump.

#230

Qotsaautopilot , 08-12-2019 04:24 AM

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Originally Posted by skigambia

It wasn’t even industry standard. Pull your head out of the sand. Enjoy flying with the below industry standard. We are getting some great guys no doubt but not 60 a month. And the good ones we are getting are leaving bc everywhere else is paying $90/hr with healthcare day one. Just wrote a LOR the other day for one. Hate to see them go.