PBS will destroy our vacation system.

That's all you need to know to vote against it.

I have had trips requested assigned to the guy 1 junior to me. I’ve also had them choose to build me below min BLG and give me PNP instead. The old VTO system was a form of PBS. The new one is also a form of PBS that is allowing them to put a segment of the crew force in essentially 4a2b. Hey but they get PNP...so Senior guys who manage to avoid SLG can wonder why they can’t trade or pick up trips. Awesome.

The average PBS would be bad for our vacation. However no 2 PBS systems are the same. I’d be willing to listen to one with complete pilot control and transparency. My regional had the same attitudes and were pleasantly surprised by our PBS.

It would require a complete rewrite of multiple contract sections to achieve our current vacation control. I don’t hold out a lot of hope for corp giving us all those parameters, but I’d at least give them an hour to see if they’re open to the pilot groups requirements. If not, I’ll join the no PBS crowd.

As I said, YOU got what YOU wanted Kronan.

Funny, I've spend hours on the 777 hearing others complain that someone junior to them was given a trip they wanted.

But yes, you and your ilk let PBS on property instead of working another solution to a ridiculous VTO system. Congrats, you made it worse!

I wonder how many more reserve lines will go into the PBS system y'all fought hard for?

I wonder how many regular lines we will agree to let move into the PBS system you are currently championing for ??

You sir just don't get it.

You’re assuming that we can write iron-clad language to maintain control over pbs parameters that will be honored by corp. However, recent trends seem to indicate that corp is very good at bypassing the intent of contractual language when it’s too expensive and/or inconvenient for them.

As an added bonus everyone keeps their current juniority as the company quits hiring for five years.

And yet the current union leadership wants to give away our retirement system for the promise of something that might be better.

But I am supposed to wear my lanyard to show my support? I don't wear a union lanyard, and I hope the union leadership is smart enough to realize the problem is them. Stop pushing stupid stuff if you want me to wear a lanyard.

Nothing needs to be given up to get something in negotiations. It’s all about leverage, which almost always tilts management’s way because they usually have the luxury of time on their side. I think that the only leverage we could have that would be significant is a possible pilot shortage in the next few years. Then time would be on our side.

Careful what you write or you might get flack coming your way. I feel the same as you. My guess is you are ex-ASA.

Read this statement out loud to yourself again please.

Unicorn. Doesn't exist.