Regional w/ Fastest Flight Time Accumulation - Page 3

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Cefiro , 05-26-2019 05:07 AM

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You can get as much flight time as you want at any regional. Just go with what makes getting to work as easy as possible or a city you enjoy living in.

As soon as you get 1000hrs TPIC the majors aren’t magically going to call. There are still lots of very qualified candidates out there.

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Excargodog , 05-26-2019 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Cefiro

You can get as much flight time as you want at any regional.

No, you cannot. Just ask these guys:

https://www.airlinepilotforums.com/h...no-flying.html

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Originally Posted by Cefiro

As soon as you get 1000hrs TPIC the majors aren’t magically going to call. There are still lots of very qualified candidates out there.

Yes, that’s true. But the retirement/hiring wave is going to peak in three to four years. If you can get your 1000 TPIC BEFORE that happens rather than AFTER, explain to me why that would be a BAD idea.

Does the fact that “the majors aren’t going to magically call” or that “there are still lots of candidates out there” mean that you aren’t even going to try? That you aren’t going to put out apps at all? That you are just going to go to some wholly owned and HOPE they don’t renege on the flow in the future?

#23

Spin , 05-26-2019 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma

This is the type of mentality that kills any QOL potential for the regionals.

How fast can I build hours; how quickly can I upgrade?

Hint: I don’t want to be in the back of your plane.

You're very correct!

#24

Excargodog , 05-26-2019 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by VIRotate

Are you a motivational speaker on your time off?

What? Me?

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#25

word302 , 05-26-2019 02:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

How do you get stuck at a sh*t regional? Never heard of the thirteenth amendment?

You can either USE the regional for your purposes or let them use you for theirs.

Rather work for Skywest? Get your 1000 TSIC and 1000 TSIC at wherever you can get it the fastest and THEN go work for OO.

You haven’t lost a friggin thing. You got a type rating and a bonus from someone like TSA (currently advertising a $60k signing bonus), get your thousand hours, upgrade to captain with $68/hr year two pay, and once you have your magic 1000TPIC, THEN you can go to OO, pick up ANOTHER type rating, a $7500 bonus, and start work there as a Third Year FO at $55 an hour and work THERE until you get the call.

Or go to Republic and pick up a $17500 bonus (and another type rating) and start at year one.

You seriously think these regionals won’t pick you up if you have 2000 hrs of 121 time from TSA? You seriously think a type rating and 2000 hrs of 121 time, half of that PIC, is going to HURT you careerwise?

It isn’t gonna hurt you near as much as going somewhere that you spend a year on reserve and fly 250 hrs, that’s for sure.

The point is, DRIVE THE PROCESS, don’t be passive.

If your plan was to work for Skywest all along, why wouldn't you just start there? Why give up 2.5 to 3 years seniority? You build time there just as fast or faster than any other place.

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Excargodog , 05-26-2019 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by word302

If your plan was to work for Skywest all along, why wouldn't you just start there? Why give up 2.5 to 3 years seniority? You build time there just as fast or faster than any other place.

A $60k signing bonus appeals to some people more than a$7.5k bonus. Go figure.

But seriously, the issue was what would your options be if you went to a place like TSA, got your 1000 TPIC, and got “trapped” there because a Major didn‘t Call. Both OO and Republic would hire that person in a heartbeat if they then wanted to go to a regional with better QOL. Don’t you agree?

#27

word302 , 05-26-2019 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

Not necessarily. Why would someone be trapped unless hiring stagnates? If hiring stagnates it's gonna be tough to move anywhere.

#28

BobbyLeeSwagger , 05-26-2019 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Excargodog

What? Me?

This is great. Belongs in the vault

#29

ESQ702 , 05-26-2019 07:42 PM

Fly or Die

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Originally Posted by DownInPetaluma

This is the type of mentality that kills any QOL potential for the regionals.

How fast can I build hours; how quickly can I upgrade?

Hint: I don’t want to be in the back of your plane.

What do you want him to do? Drag out a crappy regional career longer than needed and lose a boatload of career earnings in the process? I don’t blame the guy at all. Unions can improve contracts without scaring off any pilot approaching 1500 TT.

Plus, as has been noted above already, you can always jump ship to a different regional with better conditions and long-term outlook (Republic comes to mind) later if the majors don’t come calling.

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Excargodog , 05-26-2019 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by word302

Not necessarily. Why would someone be trapped unless hiring stagnates?

Why ask me. I didn’t make up the hypothetical. Varsity’s question was:

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And when you build all this time and still don't get called (like the other 18,000 who have applied) and you're stuck at a sh*t regional.. then what?

It did not imply a general stagnation/recession hitting the entire regional industry, in which case we might see furloughs no matter whe prevwe were.

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Originally Posted by word302

If hiring stagnates it's gonna be tough to move anywhere.

Very possibly, but that’s always the case. With the military already short of pilots and having little capability to increase their output due to the loss of UPT bases and airspace, and with the upcoming mandatory retirement wave at the majors, and with a couple of different majors in the planning stage (and Moxy looking very feasible) the risk right now seems -if anything- LOWER than normal.