Regional w/ Fastest Flight Time Accumulation
05-26-2019, 09:48 PM
#31
Gets Weekends Off
Joined APC: Mar 2011
Position: 737 FO
Posts: 2,481
Originally Posted by Excargodog
Why ask me. I didn’t make up the hypothetical. Varsity’s question was:
It did not imply a general stagnation/recession hitting the entire regional industry, in which case we might see furloughs no matter whe prevwe were.
Very possibly, but that’s always the case. With the military already short of pilots and having little capability to increase their output due to the loss of UPT bases and airspace, and with the upcoming mandatory retirement wave at the majors, and with a couple of different majors in the planning stage (and Moxy looking very feasible) the risk right now seems -if anything- LOWER than normal.
It did not imply a general stagnation/recession hitting the entire regional industry, in which case we might see furloughs no matter whe prevwe were.
Very possibly, but that’s always the case. With the military already short of pilots and having little capability to increase their output due to the loss of UPT bases and airspace, and with the upcoming mandatory retirement wave at the majors, and with a couple of different majors in the planning stage (and Moxy looking very feasible) the risk right now seems -if anything- LOWER than normal.
05-26-2019, 10:15 PM
#32
Perennial Reserve
Joined APC: Jan 2018
Posts: 11,503
Originally Posted by word302
I don't disagree with any of that. I've just always questioned anyone who goes to a **** regional because (insert reason of the month here) when there are plenty of places with good career advancement and decent (relative) pay. I've never understood how the bottom-feeders stay alive and continue to attract pilots. Then again I'm constantly baffled at how pilots at my own shop constantly get the wool pulled over their eyes. I guess pilots in general just aren't as sharp as we like to let on.
Have a good night, word. I’m giving it up.
05-27-2019, 04:16 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by word302
I don't disagree with any of that. I've just always questioned anyone who goes to a **** regional because (insert reason of the month here) when there are plenty of places with good career advancement and decent (relative) pay. I've never understood how the bottom-feeders stay alive and continue to attract pilots. Then again I'm constantly baffled at how pilots at my own shop constantly get the wool pulled over their eyes. I guess pilots in general just aren't as sharp as we like to let on.
05-31-2019, 06:45 AM
#35
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Joined APC: Jul 2017
Position: CRJ9 CA
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The answer to the question is: any regional without flow or pay.
If there’s flow or adequate pay they are properly staffed and new pilots will be on reserve and fly a little.
Mesa has neither and we have pilots timing out on 1000 in 365 without picking up open time because we fly them 90-98 hours a month.
If there’s flow or adequate pay they are properly staffed and new pilots will be on reserve and fly a little.
Mesa has neither and we have pilots timing out on 1000 in 365 without picking up open time because we fly them 90-98 hours a month.
05-31-2019, 10:08 AM
#36
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Position: 737 FO
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Originally Posted by pangolin
The answer to the question is: any regional without flow or pay.
If there’s flow or adequate pay they are properly staffed and new pilots will be on reserve and fly a little.
Mesa has neither and we have pilots timing out on 1000 in 365 without picking up open time because we fly them 90-98 hours a month.
If there’s flow or adequate pay they are properly staffed and new pilots will be on reserve and fly a little.
Mesa has neither and we have pilots timing out on 1000 in 365 without picking up open time because we fly them 90-98 hours a month.
06-03-2019, 05:09 PM
#37
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
Originally Posted by pangolin
The answer to the question is: any regional without flow or pay.
If there’s flow or adequate pay they are properly staffed and new pilots will be on reserve and fly a little.
Mesa has neither and we have pilots timing out on 1000 in 365 without picking up open time because we fly them 90-98 hours a month.
If there’s flow or adequate pay they are properly staffed and new pilots will be on reserve and fly a little.
Mesa has neither and we have pilots timing out on 1000 in 365 without picking up open time because we fly them 90-98 hours a month.
06-03-2019, 05:55 PM
#39
In a land of unicorns
Joined APC: Apr 2014
Position: Whale FO
Posts: 6,469
Originally Posted by hockey27
Thats False
13 days off and you get this:
"YOUR REQUEST TO PICK UP FROM SEQ 0xxxx / xxJUN HAS BEEN DENIED.
F/O xxxxxx PROJECTION JUN 99.54 SKD PROJ JUN 99.54"
Drop a trip, pick up a nice critical 4-day if you want during the first 10 days and boom - 130 hours credit, 99 hours block, with 13 days off.
Getting 100 hours a month is not hard. It did take a few hours of optimizing to get it that close to 100.
Last edited by dera; 06-03-2019 at 06:06 PM.
06-03-2019, 08:52 PM
#40
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Posts: 1,729
Originally Posted by dera
No it isn't. Pick up the day turns from P2P, lots of them around, and they credit 7ish hours per trip.
13 days off and you get this:
"YOUR REQUEST TO PICK UP FROM SEQ 0xxxx / xxJUN HAS BEEN DENIED.
F/O xxxxxx PROJECTION JUN 99.54 SKD PROJ JUN 99.54"
Drop a trip, pick up a nice critical 4-day if you want during the first 10 days and boom - 130 hours credit, 99 hours block, with 13 days off.
Getting 100 hours a month is not hard. It did take a few hours of optimizing to get it that close to 100.
13 days off and you get this:
"YOUR REQUEST TO PICK UP FROM SEQ 0xxxx / xxJUN HAS BEEN DENIED.
F/O xxxxxx PROJECTION JUN 99.54 SKD PROJ JUN 99.54"
Drop a trip, pick up a nice critical 4-day if you want during the first 10 days and boom - 130 hours credit, 99 hours block, with 13 days off.
Getting 100 hours a month is not hard. It did take a few hours of optimizing to get it that close to 100.
I had an absolute dream run on the 140/145 in NY at my time in Envoy. But classes literally a 2-3 months after were handed a bag of d***ks and were stuck for over 12 months on reserve, and some longer as they bid out to more senior bases.
Timing is everything. Envoy is great if you live in base and hit the timing right. It’s mostly luck and it’s a very small target to hit.
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