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full of luv , 07-12-2019 10:12 AM

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Originally Posted by TransWorld

My understanding is all the AA Mad Dogs get parked right after this Labor Day. All of the A320s, B757, and the older B767 get parked as they are replaced over the next few years. These are/will be about 20+ years old*. The reality is this will reduce the average age of the AA fleet, even as Delta is renewing their fleet.

*The current average age of these fleets are:
20.6 years MD-80
18.0 years A320
19.5 years B757
20.1 years B767

This is about 12% of the fleet, which averages, with them 10.8 years.

So the average age of the fleet will reduce a couple of years.

Separately, my crystal ball sees over half (~80) of the A319s are about 20 years old. The Airbus lines are mostly dedicated to the A321s. Few low hour used A319s will be available for purchase. So my crystal ball says, contrary to AA management statements, AA will buy some A220s. Not much of any other choice of current production.

Wait....my GF/wife is younger than yours....

Funny how AA has a lot of younger planes, but many are missing IFE!

#72

mainlineAF , 07-12-2019 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by full of luv

Wait....my GF/wife is younger than yours....

Funny how AA has a lot of younger planes, but many are missing IFE!

I didn’t see any bragging in his post he was just stating his opinion.

I was on a DL airplane the other day. Maybe 10 people were using the IFE when i used the lav. Pretty much all you need now in the domestic market is satellite WiFi and power outlets.

#73

Name User , 07-12-2019 11:15 AM

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Yes I have wondered what they will do about the 319 replacement as well. They do have some new ones. So it seems likely they will continue to operate it. But like you said the ability to acquire more/replacements is not there.

Personally I despise the 737 from a pax perspective. Even in February they are hot in the back. The seat bracing forces you to sit sideways and there is little in the way of under seat storage.

Vasu the great will have to start making difficult choices soon however. By years end we will be down ~65 airplanes between the 80's going away and undelivered/grounded MAX's. Schedules will be cut and staffing forecasts reduced. Unfortunately Delta is taking on aircraft and adding to their route network as us, United, and SWA have to pare back.

#74

ACEssXfer , 07-12-2019 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Name User

And yet all my 737 trips are red.......

#75

PRS Guitars , 07-12-2019 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ACEssXfer

And yet all my 737 trips are red.......

If it makes you feel better, all of my Airbus trips are “redder”.

#76

GuardPolice , 07-12-2019 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by mainlineAF

One DL flight speaks for the entire airline?

Pax love IFE. Especially higher paying business types that can have something playing on the IFE screen while working on another device.

GP

#77

mainlineAF , 07-12-2019 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by GuardPolice

One DL flight speaks for the entire airline?

Pax love IFE. Especially higher paying business types that can have something playing on the IFE screen while working on another device.

GP

How do you know that’s what “higher paying business types” want?

#78

GuardPolice , 07-12-2019 04:03 PM

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Surveys. Especially those we as pilots can see from those customers. Not to mention Delta is not shy of sharing that fact publicly.

GP

#79

Windcheck44 , 07-12-2019 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by TransWorld

Separately, my crystal ball sees over half (~80) of the A319s are about 20 years old. The Airbus lines are mostly dedicated to the A321s. Few low hour used A319s will be available for purchase. So my crystal ball says, contrary to AA management statements, AA will buy some A220s. Not much of any other choice of current production.

I’ve wondered whether they’d just convert some of the 250+ Envoy EMB-175 options they have to 190s and just expand that fleet to go head to head against the A-220,especially if the pay rates aren’t addressed in this contract. They’re never gonna cut into the advantage Delta has on the price on those.

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Andrew_VT , 07-12-2019 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Windcheck44

Then they'd have to use the much higher paid mainline flight attendants, gate agents, rampers and mechanics.

If those groups didn't leech off of our scope we'd have a smaller mainline narrowbody already.