I’ve been seeing 5.5 years to flow Envoy ads every time I get on APC lately. It seems that’s nowhere near the realm of possibility from the info posted here. How is recruiting still selling this?

Oh great, you’re back.


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my theory is that the company asked ALPA to stop updating the interactive seniority list with estimated flow dates probably cause they showed 8+ years to flow and this hurts recruiting. Now everyone has to do their own math and figure out when they’ll likely flow.

The guy who made the list flowed to AA and stopped caring. Messed up, but I don’t think the company asked to stop updating numbers. It is basic math, at 20 per month for 11 months and 24ish per month after that ONLY FLOWS than yeah it’ll be a while.


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I asked the union if someone else could take over, the union told me he wanted to continue doing it. This is what they told me not even two months ago.

Well, where is it? Where is e log site? When you stop updating those lists, the information is so fluid that it becomes really really hard to maintain. Of course he will say he wants to do it, but there’s no results. So I’m not holding my breath. The union one we have now is good for the time being I guess


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with thay said, someone asked online if we were going to have an updated list with estimated flow dates they said no more. Read between the lines

I have it on a very credible source that this is 100% horsepoop.

They publish a list, you do the math, it's not hard. Or you can do it yourself. 2 minutes to add the excel formula to calculate it.

i know my time to flow, long enough to stick around.. im talking a list showing you estimate to flow in 2028-9. I dont think people like to see that, thats my point.