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Old 02-18-2020 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by But seriously
All of the math is an estimate at best, and more likely a WAG. There are two huge unknown factors:

1. Outside Attrition - it’s hardly useful to use the past as a predictive tool considering what everyone anticipates the Legacy hiring to be over the next few years

2. The Flow Agreements - There is not a single pilot who has flowed to AA under an agreement that was in place when they were hired (at least in the last 20 years). The flow agreement staying constant for 5 years is extremely unlikely.
Keep Calm the Union is at it, and will share the facts!
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Old 02-18-2020 | 08:06 PM
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Originally Posted by shinydiscoballs
Keep Calm the Union is at it, and will share the facts!
Are you sure they won't vote to waive it?
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Old 02-19-2020 | 03:05 AM
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Originally Posted by Chato
my theory is that the company asked ALPA to stop updating the interactive seniority list with estimated flow dates probably cause they showed 8+ years to flow and this hurts recruiting. Now everyone has to do their own math and figure out when they’ll likely flow.
Our MEC just put out a list two weeks prior to your comment and just updated it today with expected flow dates.
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Old 02-19-2020 | 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Our MEC just put out a list two weeks prior to your comment and just updated it today with expected flow dates.
yeah somebody had asked about a month ago if they were going to release an updated one, and at that point they said no more. I guess they changed their mind
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Old 02-19-2020 | 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665

when I say this time next year finishing probation will get you to a decent ACMI or a major... that’s the majors, not legacies. Places like Jetblue, Spirit, Frontier. 2-4 years will be legacy material. A 5.5-6 year flow will only be people with no degree, only want AA and are to lazy to fight for the front door..
this is already happening. A buddy of mine is still on IOE at a regional, and already has an interview with one of the three you mentioned.
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Old 02-19-2020 | 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
this is already happening. A buddy of mine is still on IOE at a regional, and already has an interview with one of the three you mentioned.
I know a guy recently who finished IOE at Mesa and bounced immediately to a LCC
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Old 02-19-2020 | 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chato
yeah somebody had asked about a month ago if they were going to release an updated one, and at that point they said no more. I guess they changed their mind
That was re. the interactive seniority list.
The new list should be published monthly from now on.
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Old 02-19-2020 | 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
this is already happening. A buddy of mine is still on IOE at a regional, and already has an interview with one of the three you mentioned.
I reckon they didn’t enjoy sitting at the airport for 8 hours at a time and then getting a call in the last 5 minutes of it to do a long turn because it is legal.
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Old 02-19-2020 | 05:24 PM
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Originally Posted by tommy2times
I reckon they didn’t enjoy sitting at the airport for 8 hours at a time and then getting a call in the last 5 minutes of it to do a long turn because it is legal.
truth.....
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Old 02-19-2020 | 08:13 PM
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So what if you can't find your name on the new FLOW list but you've worked here for over two years?
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