5.5 Years To Flow?
02-18-2020, 04:03 PM
#31
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Originally Posted by But seriously
All of the math is an estimate at best, and more likely a WAG. There are two huge unknown factors:
1. Outside Attrition - it’s hardly useful to use the past as a predictive tool considering what everyone anticipates the Legacy hiring to be over the next few years
2. The Flow Agreements - There is not a single pilot who has flowed to AA under an agreement that was in place when they were hired (at least in the last 20 years). The flow agreement staying constant for 5 years is extremely unlikely.
1. Outside Attrition - it’s hardly useful to use the past as a predictive tool considering what everyone anticipates the Legacy hiring to be over the next few years
2. The Flow Agreements - There is not a single pilot who has flowed to AA under an agreement that was in place when they were hired (at least in the last 20 years). The flow agreement staying constant for 5 years is extremely unlikely.
02-19-2020, 03:05 AM
#33
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Originally Posted by Chato
my theory is that the company asked ALPA to stop updating the interactive seniority list with estimated flow dates probably cause they showed 8+ years to flow and this hurts recruiting. Now everyone has to do their own math and figure out when they’ll likely flow.
02-19-2020, 04:15 AM
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Originally Posted by Pedro4President
Our MEC just put out a list two weeks prior to your comment and just updated it today with expected flow dates.
02-19-2020, 04:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Cujo665
when I say this time next year finishing probation will get you to a decent ACMI or a major... that’s the majors, not legacies. Places like Jetblue, Spirit, Frontier. 2-4 years will be legacy material. A 5.5-6 year flow will only be people with no degree, only want AA and are to lazy to fight for the front door..
02-19-2020, 04:25 AM
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
this is already happening. A buddy of mine is still on IOE at a regional, and already has an interview with one of the three you mentioned.
02-19-2020, 04:42 AM
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Originally Posted by Chato
yeah somebody had asked about a month ago if they were going to release an updated one, and at that point they said no more. I guess they changed their mind
The new list should be published monthly from now on.
02-19-2020, 05:51 AM
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Originally Posted by itsmytime
this is already happening. A buddy of mine is still on IOE at a regional, and already has an interview with one of the three you mentioned.
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