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Flow list? Do you mean flow plan?Originally Posted by ViperCrosswind
So what if you can't find your name on the new FLOW list but you've worked here for over two years?
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I'd say you are lost.Originally Posted by ViperCrosswind
So what if you can't find your name on the new FLOW list but you've worked here for over two years?
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1. Outside Attrition - it’s hardly useful to use the past as a predictive tool considering what everyone anticipates the Legacy hiring to be over the next few years
2. The Flow Agreements - There is not a single pilot who has flowed to AA under an agreement that was in place when they were hired (at least in the last 20 years). The flow agreement staying constant for 5 years is extremely unlikely.
Originally Posted by But seriously
All of the math is an estimate at best, and more likely a WAG. There are two huge unknown factors:1. Outside Attrition - it’s hardly useful to use the past as a predictive tool considering what everyone anticipates the Legacy hiring to be over the next few years
2. The Flow Agreements - There is not a single pilot who has flowed to AA under an agreement that was in place when they were hired (at least in the last 20 years). The flow agreement staying constant for 5 years is extremely unlikely.
Fortunately, you're wrong. This time, the flow is contractual. It's not going to stop.
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Fortunately, you're wrong. This time, the flow is contractual. It's not going to stop.
the flow haters are really funny. They will make up any thing they can think of to discredit it.Originally Posted by THKooj
Fortunately, you're wrong. This time, the flow is contractual. It's not going to stop.
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Fortunately, you're wrong. This time, the flow is contractual. It's not going to stop.
What they meant was that all of the flow agreements thus far have changed (for the better). I don't know if this is completely true, but what's was meant is 'no one has flowed to AA under the exact same flow terms they were hired under.'Originally Posted by THKooj
Fortunately, you're wrong. This time, the flow is contractual. It's not going to stop.
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Who “hates” the flow? Pretty sure everyone is happy to have it but what rational person wouldn’t want to see it improved?Originally Posted by itsmytime
the flow haters are really funny. They will make up any thing they can think of to discredit it.
Is it perfect, no, is it better than nothing, yes.
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Is it perfect, no, is it better than nothing, yes.
People who can't get in or those who are now on the outside looking in.Originally Posted by Cyio
Who “hates” the flow? Pretty sure everyone is happy to have it but what rational person wouldn’t want to see it improved?Is it perfect, no, is it better than nothing, yes.
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No, we just hate that KoolAid shills like you and management inflate it beyond its actual and ever diminishing value because it is an excuse for poor QOL and pay.Originally Posted by THKooj
People who can't get in or those who are now on the outside looking in.
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Starting soon, the retirements are forecast to require hiring 1 out of 5 of the regional pilots each and every year, sustained. (Accounting for additional hires from military and other non-regional pilots.)Originally Posted by But seriously
2. The Flow Agreements - The flow agreement staying constant for 5 years is extremely unlikely.
In light of this, will you think the flow agreement numbers will remain unchanged? Envoy flow numbers, with no change and no attrition, would result in new hires today flowing in 10 years. Yet hiring will result in 5 years average time to hire for the regionals as a whole.
Try squaring these two in your mind. Ether flows will become meaningless or flow numbers will change. (Baring a black swan event.)
