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Quote: .... or a judge could alter the current scope language in bankruptcy. Time will tell.
The super senior, super ANGRY folks on the OTHER United forum are suggesting selling scope for pay raises. Let’s hope that goes NOWHERE.
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Quote: The super senior, super ANGRY folks on the OTHER United forum are suggesting selling scope for pay raises. Let’s hope that goes NOWHERE.
Those guys are just a vocal very small group who don’t have the votes or influence to change a thing. Kind of like the extremes in politics who think that they are going to abolish the 2nd amendment or outlaw abortion.
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Quote: Those guys are just a vocal very small group who don’t have the votes or influence to change a thing. Kind of like the extremes in politics who think that they are going to abolish the 2nd amendment or outlaw abortion.
yeah....I started paying attention to the actual NUMBERS on that forum....and it’s never more than 15-20 people. And it’s the SAME people. Must be exhausting.
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Scope starting to bite...
It won’t be just United though. All three of the Big Three have cut back mainline fleets. Initially decreasing the number of seats in their regional feed aircraft will will take care of the scope implications of that, albeit at a significant hit to their CASM, but that may not be sustainable as the second year of decreased seat-miles and all around revenue continues.


https://thepointsguy.com/news/united...ats-from-e175/


The big winners, however, threaten to be SWA and the LCCs leading the recovery domestically.
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Quote: or not

furlough 2000 in June 2021 while I could see SKYW to start hiring again at that time.
Well, don’t forget that over 2,000 UAX pilots between ExpressJet and Trans States shutdowns were sent to the streets.

Only airline in the UAX system with furloughed pilots is Air Wisconsin with 130 pilots waiting recall. AW’s days may be numbered with the old 200 fleet they possess.

Point I’m making, on the UAX side there are no furloughs to recall, so the only solution would be to hire.
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Retiring 50 seaters, with no specifics, was mentioned several times on yesterday’s earnings call.
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Quote: Retiring 50 seaters, with no specifics, was mentioned several times on yesterday’s earnings call.
The 50 seaters are getting pretty tired and definitely closer to the end than anything else in the fleet, but United is really good at kicking the can down the road. Saying that the 50 seaters are going to be retired without providing a plan and a date is like telling a 75 year old man that he’s going to die. Could be soon, could be years from now, but still the truth.
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Quote: The 50 seaters are getting pretty tired and definitely closer to the end than anything else in the fleet, but United is really good at kicking the can down the road. Saying that the 50 seaters are going to be retired without providing a plan and a date is like telling a 75 year old man that he’s going to die. Could be soon, could be years from now, but still the truth.
Yeah that’s true, but with the whole EV movement and Biden’s Master’s doing everything they can to raise the price of fuel, I see the 50 seater dying much sooner than later. The keystone pipeline is just the beginning. UA has a history of pulling the plug in an instant. So when/if it happens, I doubt there’ll be any warning.
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Quote: Yeah that’s true, but with the whole EV movement and Biden’s Master’s doing everything they can to raise the price of fuel, I see the 50 seater dying much sooner than later. The keystone pipeline is just the beginning. UA has a history of pulling the plug in an instant. So when/if it happens, I doubt there’ll be any warning.
Ahhhhh yes, Biden's master plan. Get elected president of the United States just to raise your gas prices! How devious
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