Future of United Express
08-01-2020, 11:39 AM
#242
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At the end of the day ALPA is a labor union that is going to bargain for the Interests or mainline pilots and only mainline jobs. Years ago working EMS,I was the member of a large international union which represented firefighters. My agency did transports only and had no fire suppression capabilities. While it was nice having the resources of a large international labor group, they were also very open about putting us in our place and pushing to bring EMS transport under the umbrella of fire suppression duties and thus putting us out of work.
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08-01-2020, 01:49 PM
#243
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Originally Posted by Av8rPHX
At the end of the day ALPA is a labor union that is going to bargain for the Interests or mainline pilots and only mainline jobs. Years ago working EMS,I was the member of a large international union which represented firefighters. My agency did transports only and had no fire suppression capabilities. While it was nice having the resources of a large international labor group, they were also very open about putting us in our place and pushing to bring EMS transport under the umbrella of fire suppression duties and thus putting us out of work.
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08-01-2020, 03:38 PM
#244
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Originally Posted by Dstblj52
Hard to blame them its basically impossible to make things better at the regionals due to the nature of bidding for business far better to try and shrink them so mainline and the LLC can grow in their place
08-01-2020, 05:40 PM
#245
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Originally Posted by SonicFlyer
If it is the same union for both XJT and UAL, then why did they let UAL get away with this?
It’s not the same union. The pilots who are on the XJT MEC are not the same pilots who are on the UAL mec. ALPA is an association of several unions. That’s what the second A in ALPA stands for. But I’m pretty sure you already knew that and your line of questions has a specific agenda. Why not just come out and say it? It’s okay.
08-01-2020, 05:46 PM
#246
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Originally Posted by Av8rPHX
At the end of the day ALPA is a labor union that is going to bargain for the Interests or mainline pilots and only mainline jobs. Years ago working EMS,I was the member of a large international union which represented firefighters. My agency did transports only and had no fire suppression capabilities. While it was nice having the resources of a large international labor group, they were also very open about putting us in our place and pushing to bring EMS transport under the umbrella of fire suppression duties and thus putting us out of work.
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Only an airline pilot’s respective MEC can negotiate their own contract. They are not able to negotiate another pilot group’s contract. They have no say in it. So of course each MEC is going to negotiate what is solely in their own interest. So yes, mainline pilots will always negotiate in their own interest and regional pilots will negotiate their own interest. Neither has a say in the other.
08-01-2020, 06:02 PM
#247
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Originally Posted by FXLAX
It’s not the same union. The pilots who are on the XJT MEC are not the same pilots who are on the UAL mec. ALPA is an association of several unions. That’s what the second A in ALPA stands for. But I’m pretty sure you already knew that and your line of questions has a specific agenda. Why not just come out and say it? It’s okay.
09-18-2020, 01:05 PM
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Originally Posted by GA2Jets
With the new TA at United, anyone know what the changes are in regard to Express flying?
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