tonsterboy5

ZW is in the same boat except for the fact that if ZW is losing money it means nothing to UA. If ExpressJet or commutair are losing money United is losing money. ZW losses money, their owners lose money. Express and commute lose money united loses money. United is trying to save their money, they could care less about others losing money.

dremaldent

ZW doesn't care about losing money in the short-term. To the owners, the airline is an investment. ZW doesn't need to stay profitable throughout this to stay alive, it just needs a war chest to limp along until it can be profitable again.

tonsterboy5

that’s my point, ZW can limp along at a loss for the next few years knowing they will come out of the other side with less competition. The companies that are either partly or wholly owned by major or ones that are publicly traded have a lot more pressure to break even or make a profit at all cost. Short term United had to get rid of something it was dumping money into to show investors that’s its doing everything it can so save money.

SonicFlyer

Interesting perspective. Can you expand on this, cite some examples possibly?

ZeroTT

it’s fairly straightforward. Let’s say you sign a two-year cell phone contract with Verizon. And you also pay your son the same amount per month to mow the yard.you lose your job, who do you stop paying?

Burt123

Famous last words of a Comair pilot

pitchtrim

I'm not so sure ZW has that many super senior people around after the last few years of hiring into the majors and elsewhere. They aren't as top heavy as they once were.

dremaldent

We still have a few, but again, the company doesn't care how much money they burn as long as it's eventually profitable again, and they're trying everything right now.

idlethrust

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idlethrust

I’m gonna say something that will tick off a bunch of people and I know I’m gonna get a lot of backlash for it but here goes. First of all I don’t want to see anyone loose their job , especially in these crazy times . However ,some of these regionals need to go away. There may very well be one or two more that don’t make it so dont be surprised if it happens.
Over the past few years whenever xyz airlines wanted to expand domestically they went to abc regional to fly rjs from point a to b instead of expanding within mainline. This only creates more jobs at the regional level and not at mainline, thus further delaying most pilots time at the regionals .
Now you have people flying from dc to dfw , Ord to ny and two or three hour trips on with rjs instead of mainline aircraft.This was never the intended purpose of regionals.
No one seen this pandemic coming, no way no how, but it is doing something that ironically needed to be done and that is clean up this industry and rid itself of a lot of rjs and regional outfits .
When this is over and abc airlines want to expand domestically, they will look internally first instead of depending on rj lift , therefore creating more jobs for us down the road . It will sting for awhile for all of us but for those who stick it out for a few years more I think the opportunities will once again be plentiful one day .Im sorry for those who have lost their job and for those who willl in the coming months , but in a funny round about way the regional model needed to cannablize itself so that we may all have a better chance at the heavy metal down the road .
Rant over ——😐😐😐