Future of United Express
07-23-2020 | 07:43 AM
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I see a lot of bashing Kirby all over the place for the regional "whipsaw". But honestly, what does a expect? They are laying of tons of workers, cutting costs everywhere. Of course they are putting pressure on regionals to be cheap or lose business. Whether or not he's personally bad, what would you expect him to do?
07-23-2020 | 08:19 AM
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07-23-2020 | 10:23 AM
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Once concessions start at one Alpa cattier everyone else will be asked to follow suit .
Hell no
BURN IT DOWN BEFORE YOU GIVE UP ONE EFFING DIME .
We made strategic gains in compensation over the last few years and now they want you to take it all back and start over ?? F’ em .
Hell no
BURN IT DOWN BEFORE YOU GIVE UP ONE EFFING DIME .
We made strategic gains in compensation over the last few years and now they want you to take it all back and start over ?? F’ em .
Somebody gets it
07-24-2020 | 01:55 PM
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From: 4A2FU
XJT certificate still has 175 on it, work a seniority solution or shutter operations preserve the certificate. Displace United pilots to Moxy former XJT certificate, move United owned175s over to it, by cutting a deal with Mesa to operate the Gojet 550s, and furture ones tail for tail.
United ALPA needs to get involved XJT is the most viable option for their furloughs with 175 approval. XJT pilots need to consider what type of seniority bath is acceptable for a possible furloughed United seniority number, vs total cease of operations.
United ALPA needs to get involved XJT is the most viable option for their furloughs with 175 approval. XJT pilots need to consider what type of seniority bath is acceptable for a possible furloughed United seniority number, vs total cease of operations.
If UA pilots had done this and accepted a dogdoo payrate to get the 175 and 145/200/700/900 on property years ago, the kids who've been airline pilots for 6 months and are still living in their parent's basement would be getting furloughed instead of the 35-45 y/o folks who put in 10-20 years at the regionals only to get scooped up last year and now getting furloughed when they finally made it. But UALPA MEC has managed to convince UA pilots that it's better to make $0/hr on furlough when a SkyWest 175 captain is making $120/hr flying DEN-DFW. Well done chaps.
07-24-2020 | 02:01 PM
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The term you're looking for to describe this is "recapture scope."
If UA pilots had done this and accepted a dogdoo payrate to get the 175 and 145/200/700/900 on property years ago, the kids who've been airline pilots for 6 months and are still living in their parent's basement would be getting furloughed instead of the 35-45 y/o folks who put in 10-20 years at the regionals only to get scooped up last year and now getting furloughed when they finally made it. But UALPA MEC has managed to convince UA pilots that it's better to make $0/hr on furlough when a SkyWest 175 captain is making $120/hr flying DEN-DFW. Well done chaps.
If UA pilots had done this and accepted a dogdoo payrate to get the 175 and 145/200/700/900 on property years ago, the kids who've been airline pilots for 6 months and are still living in their parent's basement would be getting furloughed instead of the 35-45 y/o folks who put in 10-20 years at the regionals only to get scooped up last year and now getting furloughed when they finally made it. But UALPA MEC has managed to convince UA pilots that it's better to make $0/hr on furlough when a SkyWest 175 captain is making $120/hr flying DEN-DFW. Well done chaps.
07-25-2020 | 08:20 AM
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Think of it like cutting off an infected arm (xjet) to save the body (UA)
07-25-2020 | 10:05 AM
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Sounds like you’ve never ran a company or actually read the financial statements of one. Every company, even one like Apple with $2 billion in the bank carries debt. Even though Mana and UA own xjt, xjt is its own operating company. So when UA/Mana need parts, building leases, facuilities, etc. They take it out against the subsidiary. That way if bankruptcy does happen they can cut there losses and not have to pay back the entire debt. I suggest you read the quarterly financials between both companies. Based on sheer size of xjt over CommutAir I would assume that there debt is greater. Im not wishing they lose their job, but so many people are delusional of whats about to happen. Covid-19 dwarfs 9/11 and 2008.
Think of it like cutting off an infected arm (xjet) to save the body (UA)
Think of it like cutting off an infected arm (xjet) to save the body (UA)
Also, when UA bought xjet from SkyWest, they also assumed some of SkyWest's debt in the transaction.
07-25-2020 | 04:37 PM
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07-25-2020 | 04:54 PM
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It is much less perceptible in the front. All wing mounted engine aircraft will 'fishtail' in turbulence compared to those with aft mounted engines because of thrust vectors. Pangolin was a bit hyperbolic in his statement but the high wing loading of the 170 and even more so the 190 does contribute to a less compliant ride. The 321 has the same issue.
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