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My understanding is that the heartburn from the company with concurrent duty was that there were zoomies sitting reserve with DAL and also sitting alert with their squadron; when scheduling called, the aforementioned pilot would then drop mil leave. That is most definitely abuse and something that a civilian equivalent can't do.
In this case, if Delta is allowing someone to do their side job while awaiting training, then there is no reason why a mil guy can't also do the mil thing until training. BS said in one of his townhalls that affected pilots will be given 30 days notice prior to training, so if you drop mil orders at the 30 days out, then I don't see the problem. Delta is trying to bully MIL guys just to save a few dollars that Delta was given for free. I know it comes more from a planning stand point; it must really suck for them not being able to plan more than 30 days out .
Finally, USSERA specifically states that a commander's letter can count as proof of duty. You don't have to provide orders to drop mil leave.
Not sure what the relationship is at DL between management and ALPA MAC but at last job, we didn't have a MAC. We had a couple bad apples that would get there schedule and drop MIL Leave on it to get out of a crappy line or training they were awarded. It was usually a call from the lawyers from the company to the commander to verify there was indeed MIL leave and ask for official orders, I'm not sure what the legal implications of that were but again the company was finding out (through other guys in the same squadron) that a couple guys were abusing there MIL Leave status. As long as you have official orders, I can't see DL throwing a fit about it. Follow USSERA and whatever the contract says and they can't touch you.Originally Posted by crazyjaydawg
I get what you're saying, but I think the time has come for that to be addressed. I don't think anyone needs to lose their job, instead I think the ALPA MAC can communicate with the company to see their intentions in this situation and/or get the DOJ involved depending on a response.My understanding is that the heartburn from the company with concurrent duty was that there were zoomies sitting reserve with DAL and also sitting alert with their squadron; when scheduling called, the aforementioned pilot would then drop mil leave. That is most definitely abuse and something that a civilian equivalent can't do.
In this case, if Delta is allowing someone to do their side job while awaiting training, then there is no reason why a mil guy can't also do the mil thing until training. BS said in one of his townhalls that affected pilots will be given 30 days notice prior to training, so if you drop mil orders at the 30 days out, then I don't see the problem. Delta is trying to bully MIL guys just to save a few dollars that Delta was given for free. I know it comes more from a planning stand point; it must really suck for them not being able to plan more than 30 days out .
Finally, USSERA specifically states that a commander's letter can count as proof of duty. You don't have to provide orders to drop mil leave.