Done. It took a while to get them all in, but as you said, it is peace of mind. I’m at 7000ish and hope to ride the NYC7ERA category until it is gone and then slide into the 765 eventually. Long shot I know, but crazier things just happened.

Indeed. As for the question, your guess is as good as mine sorry. We aren’t backed up right now, that’s about all I know


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I am a ‘14 hire. Did my first TOE to Accra in Jan 2015, pre covid.

Copy, thanks for the response. If you get me for IQ be gentle!

So - category freezes. I know you can't take an AE, and obviously an MD is an MD, but what about VDs? Can you take a VD while under a category freeze?

Yup....see 22.A.7.c.

So I'm a pretty young new hire, live in SLC. I'm 85 or so from bottom. Missed SLC by one or so, went with a dream bid of 7ER out of LAX and got it. Seems a lot of people complain about the flying as you said. I haven't flown in over 1 year, coming from junior line as a regional captain. What's the issue with the "ugly" flying as said? Is it the overnight length and red eyes? This will be my first airplane at Delta and from the trips I see this will be a huge QOL boost from my previous flying (pre-pandemic). But I don't know what I don't know. I do understand someones trash is another man's treasure and don't want to fall in the habits of a new pilot falling for the shiny jet syndrome and such. I guess I'll see but still the flying I've seen and expect doesn't seem too horrible to me. Not enough for me to regret my bid. Even with the dying fleet thing.... Unless we expect that to be a dramatic changing in 2 years, but based on the bid it feels like that's not the case.

And I'll be off the fleet and on the 320 back home in SLC before I see the end days or 7ER or dwindling days. Maybe my optimism on that? I've read this thread on the bad trips and looked them up in open time and such. I just still don't see some of the bad or ugly flying. But my perspective of commuting to NYC220 vs LAX7ER seems like a huge QOL improvement and furthermore excitement for trips/work.

Thanks for the info!

I was a bottomfeeder on the ER for the first 2 years here at Delta.

The "Bad" ER flying was still pretty good.

That said, a lot of it wasn't commutable, and I have flown ONCE since COVID went into full stupid mode.

Currently out on Mil Leave considering going back to the ER, but if the RJ schedule to NYC out of ORF doesn't get better, may just go NB ATL.

It's whatever you make of it. I love the "bad" flying.