Go Cards go

Got bought off in March for OE. Scheduling called the night before around 8pm and said I was released. Just like to good ole days.

notEnuf

And the way it should be. Precedent was set a long time ago, the recent change was deliberately punitive when Sect. 6 started. Glad it worked for you. I hope that is the standard across all fleets but I have my doubts.

Bergman

FWIW I’ve got a OE Wednesday and the other FO got bought off Saturday, so I’d say your experience isn’t a lone event.

hvydvr

Perhaps the schedulers are buying folks off early in the hopes that they'll get a slip in and help save their collective asses from the clowns on fire sh!tshow that is just about any given weekend on the NBs.

crewdawg

Agreed and I do the same. I just didn't know if there was something else I was missing. I guess if you expected people to leave that cateogry in short order (reinstate to a previous aircraft) then that makes sense and you'd have to adjust for that. But in general, X percent usually guaranteed a line, X percent gets you weekends off...but sometimes it doesn't, which goes back to the hope for the best lol.

fishforfun

You would think that is what they would attempt to do. But logic seems to have left long ago. Optics and all you know.

gloopy

I'd run that by an ALPA FAR SME.

Rest has to be prospective. The days of rest contuining as long as they end up not needing you at the last second were over years ago. The computer may not have caught up, but if you had a rotation on your schedule less than 10 hours from now (or whatever greater intl requirements may apply) I'm pretty sure you can't legally get released at the last second then call that staying on rest.

Scoop

Your watching too much "Ocho."

Scoop

notEnuf

I think we are making the same point. If you don't sign in and the LCA calls scheduling, the trip is removed. You are still on rest and no duty period has started that would then require the 10 hour prospective rest. You are now ok to pick up slips immediately after the trip was removed. Just like a GS on off days. Unless something changed I'm unaware of this was the key to 3x pay. It worked for me a few times, once upon a time.

gloopy

I don't think it works that way, although what you are thinking of can still be done in many cases. But it still has to be original report compliant for FAR's. The computer may allow it even if its not, but if you had a trip that report time was the end of your prospective rest. Period. Having it dropped just before the original report time is irrelevant. To be legal in that case you'd need a new 10 hours to report, or whatever slip you picked up would have to be rest compliant with your original report since you had less than 10 hours notice to its change.

Just as in the past they could call you at the hotel for a delayed flight and keep pushing your report up, along with the start of your duty day, now such "courtesy calls" do nothing to your report time. Even when made before report; you are still on duty until you either time out or are given a new 10 hour period. That period has to be pre-defined and cannot "slide forward" with an LCA pre-release (unless the LCA gives 10+ hours notice of course).

If your trip was a noon report for a 1PM departure and the LCA released you at 11:45AM you could still legally pick up...but if the new trip started at 3PM your FAR report would still be noon because that was your prospective rest end time and you didn't get a new 10 hours. It can't be slid or retroactively erased because of a last minute release from everything I've seen on this.