What’s the flow length for a new hire hired today?

I’m sure people who have been stuck at a regional for 10+years with no call from delta/United/swa/fedex would be happy if they got to flow to AA, even if the relative seniority wouldn’t be great. I think the legacies are too big to fail, even with large amount of debt. But I could be wrong

There are probably some Alitalia pilots who thought the same thing.

Or more historically some PanAm pilots that thought the same thing.

Not exactly an apples to apples comparison. Now that passengers have basically returned in meaningful numbers, and every major/legacy is hiring at full-tilt, it would be very difficult for the industry to absorb or swallow an airline the size of one of the “big 4”. The DOT and federal government won’t let that happen, and they’ve shown this.

There are a lot less airlines today than there were in the late 1980s. AA is also much much much bigger than Pan Am ever was, and occupies a much larger market share for both domestic and international travel.

Alitalia is a tiny piece of the EU airline industry. A better comparison would be if IAG or Lufthansa Group collapsed. If Lufthansa, Swiss, Eurowings, Austrian, and Brussels all were on death row, I think even the EU would step in and prevent a collapse.

I think AA will be fine.

I was just responding with some skepticism that “AA is too big to fail”…I don’t think AA is going anywhere. But any company is just a few major management missteps away from obscurity…

Not the topic of this thread, but if ULCC’s continue their rise (think I read they’re about 30% market share in Europe to <10% in the US) the big 4 could get crowded and become the big 3.

Ask most legacy/mainline guys and they’re hesitant to admit that WN is even a part of the big 4…but look what they’ve been able to chip away in the past 10-20 years.